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penispuppet
06-05-2012, 12:09 AM
I'm in my mid 40s, and I've been intriqued and into female domination since before adolescence. I used to sneak my brother's Penthouse & Variations magazines and read whatever I could about Female Domination. In my adult years, I frequented several houses of domination and Leather clubs in NYC, the Vault and the Hellfire Club in particular. And while there was certainly CBT and bondage, and an occasional slapping or whipping of a man's balls (oftentimes my own), I never saw any instances of "Ballbusting" at these clubs, nor did any Pro Dommes advertise this as a service offered. Furthermore, most of the lame VHS FemDom movies available at the time, while adequate for providing whack-off ammo, were actually quite tame in comparison to the typical C$s files. Books like SM101 or "Screw the Roses, Give Me the Thorns" warned aspiring Dominas to be particularly careful when it came to the testicles.

That's not to say that I didn't enjoy my share of ball squeezes. I remember this girl I dated in the mid 90s. Best ball squeezer! What a rush. But still, it wasn't kicking, and it certainly wasn't dozens or hundreds of repeated kicks... And there was always those self-defense videos from the 70s and 80s, which did it for some.

Then, perhaps because of the advent of the Internet, around 1999, I began seeing, in the deepest fringes of the FemDom world, the then "almost unthinkable" fetish known as ballbusting. No doubt many of us rubbed many a load out watching that Italian guy who always wore those Chinos, or that Asianballbust.net guy. And from there, it seemed to become ubiquitous.

Fastforward 13 years later, and it seems that most every dominatrix offers ballbusting not only as a service, but as a personal favorite. Indeed, it seems that the boundaries and limits of what is unthinkable have been completely destroyed. I just watched Elise UK "Relentless Insanity Until He Pukes," and I am finding it difficult to believe that this type of play existed at anytime before the past decade. For most of this past weekend, my eyes were glued to my monitor and my hand was glued to my dick watching her and Deanna Storm as well as many other extreme ballbusters - in utter fascination - Amazed that any man could endure such abuse, trying to vicariously place myself in his situation, and all the while envying women who get paid big money to destroy willing victims (and to do enjoy doing it).

In similar fasion, 15 years ago, I had never heard of the concept of enforced male chastity; today, chastity and cuckoldry are now prominent parts of FemDom, as is "Financial Domination," which, I'm sorry to say, offers little "bang for the buck" in my estimation. Regardless, these subfetishes are now big parts of the FemDom world. It's definitely not sex play - it is the REAL DEAL.

So, while the evolution of these aspects of female domination extend beyond the narrow realm of ballbusting, I'm curious to hear from some old-timers in particular; was this stuff going on in the 70s or earlier? I see in most of the Merciless Ballbusting videos out there that most of the men being busted are at least in their 60s (or they're much younger, but all that ballbusting has caused them to age prematurely). Were these older men into this stuff when they were in the Korean War?

And if that wasn't enough: Do you think that these more-degrading and devauling aspects of female domination have risen in popularity as women have risen in power (while men have skipped) in general society? Are these higher-octane fetishes a more blunt manifestation of feelings of inferiority?

Sorry to Killjoy this forum with a more philosophical post, but I figure if anybody would want to discuss it, it would be someone here.

Are these trends in Female Domination "New" or is there really nothing under the sun?

Dix
06-05-2012, 02:03 AM
I have had this interest for the past 40 years plus. I'd be interested in hearing what people have to say about it. I haven't a clue personally.

darkwing
06-05-2012, 08:04 AM
I suppose there is a factor related to the rise and fall of our society now that there are so many people with extra 'time on their hands';) .

There is also the aspect of a desire for increasing stimulation to provide the same rush. Once what used to be enough to get one excited doesn't do it anymore, there is a need to push the boundaries to the next level to maintain that sense of excitement. With the internet, so many people can now access so many things - not just what's stashed under your brother's bed. What we can see now is how far others have gone, even if that is beyond what we might personally be 'ready' to experience. There is a danger to that if we don't exercise control with what we allow ourselves to experience. The danger is in accelerating our own tolerance for how much stimulation we will need for the next satisfying rush of excitement. If we're not careful, it can lead to dangerous situations.:(

Alec Anaconda, A1
06-05-2012, 01:23 PM
As DarkWing states, the majority of people now have uncensored access to sexual information, and some wish to experiment. BDSM is certainly not new, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadomasochism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadomasochism) (dry as dust link), but partial general acceptance is.

What I feel has changed is medical opinion regarding the toughness of balls; I recall reading a quote from a 1960s Forum magazine, with a doctor advising that testes be treated as carefully as eyes, but that the scrotum was fair game.

As to Financial Dom, mistresses (married men’s lovers) have always excelled at this game, typically guised as needs for a love-nest, bill payment etc. Why anyone would do this without sexual repayment is beyond my comprehension, but anybody wanting a Financial Dom Master can contact me via this forum or my publisher!

skweezme
06-05-2012, 04:44 PM
For many years any Femdom in popular or fetish media was stereotypically represented by a woman wielding a whip. The story “Venus In Furs” by Leopold von Sacher-Masoch(1870) informed psychoanalytic culture (Freud 1905), underground rock culture (The Velvet Underground 1967) and fetish culture.

Maybe the internet has helped to break this stereotype. It was never my fantasy to be whipped. But I looked to trad S&M stuff for fantasies of girls who were sadistic. Who might be into ballbusting. But it was all whipping in those days.

My own desires and inclinations for having my balls hurt by a sadistic girl pre-dated my exposure to any S&M stuff.

Maybe ballbusting has just come out of the closet, was always there. If Freud had known about it he’d have had a field day!

nycguy28
06-06-2012, 07:52 AM
I also had a thing for ballbusting before exposure to the S&M scene in general. I just found the notion fascinating and erotic, but didn't really know why. While I now have a broader set of interests in kink, S&M, and female domination, it all started with ballbusting for me.

Anyway, I do suspect that extreme ballbusting has happened for a bit longer than the past decade or so, but it was much more rare. Elise is intense because she knows her intensity is in contrast to the norm. I expect we'll find her current body of work relatively tame in the future.

An area of BB porn that has been disappointingly slow to grow is the SINGLE, debilitating blow. There was a thread about that here a while back. Anyway, I like seeing a kick or knee in the balls genuinely incapacitate and effectively neuter (temporarily) a man. Even Elise's more extreme clips have dozens or hundreds of strikes, which means to me they must not be that hard or extreme.

spikeface
06-06-2012, 08:09 AM
i can't believe that there is even a forum of this size dedicated to ballbusting... i only told my wife last year and had spent years freaking out about how strange it was...

i certainly had to look a lot harder ten/fifteen years ago, even with the internet.

penispuppet
06-06-2012, 12:26 PM
An area of BB porn that has been disappointingly slow to grow is the SINGLE, debilitating blow. There was a thread about that here a while back. Anyway, I like seeing a kick or knee in the balls genuinely incapacitate and effectively neuter (temporarily) a man. Even Elise's more extreme clips have dozens or hundreds of strikes, which means to me they must not be that hard or extreme.

Let's face it - Elise's clientele are all "numbnuts" - not in the vernacular sense, of course, but they have built up a tolerance for abuse. For that matter, we here are all numbnuts - those who (still) have nuts, that is.

The first time I had a girl slap my balls, I went down for 20-30 seconds. Now, such a slap normally results in a chuckle or a yawn.

I think if Elise were to take a "man off the street" (who wasn't into BB as a fetish) and deliver one of those swift kicks, I have the distinct feeling he'd be writhing in agony for at least 2-3 minutes.

If you're looking for more downtime than that, I think you'd have to bring in plastic explosives.

nycguy28
06-06-2012, 09:17 PM
Let's face it - Elise's clientele are all "numbnuts" - not in the vernacular sense, of course, but they have built up a tolerance for abuse. For that matter, we here are all numbnuts - those who (still) have nuts, that is.

The first time I had a girl slap my balls, I went down for 20-30 seconds. Now, such a slap normally results in a chuckle or a yawn.

I think if Elise were to take a "man off the street" (who wasn't into BB as a fetish) and deliver one of those swift kicks, I have the distinct feeling he'd be writhing in agony for at least 2-3 minutes.

If you're looking for more downtime than that, I think you'd have to bring in plastic explosives.

This is a good point. But still, I'm surprised that there isn't even more bb porn in which they stage this outcome. I mean, let's say the guy in the video is a "numb nuts" for a given video with a very hard kicker like Elise. Elise kicks him very very hard once and he goes down making authentic pained noises and stuff. I really think this would be popular and I think the main reason it doesn't happen is that the videos would be short. But really, these could be nice, minute long videos.... Something to think about, people here who make bb vids, right?