Fetishism is desire without love.

[eric B]

Fetishism is desire without love because real love is based in reality, not fantasy.

Fetishism is like infatuation - love without a sense of reality - it's appetite that can never be satisfied because it is chasing an ideal that has nothing to do with the real world.

[One from the Vaults]

Fetishism is a psychological trait which may or may not coincide with love. They're unrelated. If someone has a fetish, they're going to have that fetish no matter how much or how little they love.

[Selftailer]

Fetishism is desire without love because real love is based in reality, not fantasy.

Fetishism is like infatuation - love without a sense of reality - it's appetite that can never be satisfied because it is chasing an ideal that has nothing to do with the real world.

I do not agree. If Only reality Can grant love presence what about religions?

[echiijanai]

If you say so, oh arbiter of reality.

[eric B]

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[eric B]

I do not agree. If Only reality Can grant love presence what about religions?

Religion is about idealistic infatuation not realistic love.

Fetishism deals in ideals and fantasies it has nothing to do with the reality of who someone really is.

Most religious people hate reality that's why they pine for the Kingdom Of Heaven.

Most fetishists hate the reality of the people they fetishize that's why they have to turn them into a fantasy.

[Selftailer]

Religion is about idealistic infatuation not realistic love.

Fetishism deals in ideals and fantasies it has nothing to do with the reality of who someone really is.

Most religious people hate reality that's why they pine for the Kingdom Of Heaven.

Most fetishists hate the reality of the people they fetishize that's why they have to turn them into a fantasy.

It's Your opinion Eric, and I have no reason to argue about.
But if You state that Religions are just idealistic infatuations
let me suppose that You are a bit far from the real perception
of love that all the people, all around the world feel about their
faith.

[bthauronite]

Let this thread die. SAGE

[eric B]

Religious love isn't real love of the real world, it's infatuation with phantom ideals.

[NNF4E]

the main question is....
what is love?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc-PJPrueXY

[eric B]

Love is the attraction of the individual to reality


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDjSTRF4Jg

[unknownep]

What's the problem with that?

[stman]

So basically, the women who've enjoyed playing with me and I with them, mutually, aren't real. Gotcha.

[bthauronite]

Stop bumping this garbage thread

[lolforg]

Good points.

[sebi40]

Fetishism is desire without love because real love is based in reality, not fantasy.

Fetishism is like infatuation - love without a sense of reality - it's appetite that can never be satisfied because it is chasing an ideal that has nothing to do with the real world.

This is true but what are you suggesting at the end? You have a fetish and I have a fetish and as hard we will try will never get rid of it. Even if we are not doing our fetish for years this will not improve our sexual desire based on pure love.
That is a fact and we have to accept it.

[virile]

********** (Ball Busting) Sexual Fetish, Why Some Men Like This?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRq3y3orZ4c

[sebi40]

********** (Ball Busting) Sexual Fetish, Why Some Men Like This?
sexual therapist available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRq3y3orZ4c


Another good one from same doctor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9Sp_GJ76no

[sebi40]

OP (virile) decided to live his fantasize and this is good
More than that he also dare to post it on Internet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8y0OWtTgQPDcDJyVUVNSzNtNE0/view

I also decided to live them and I am doing this regularly.

Now what is missing from here? Well this is love. I am , as viril, one of those BB lovers that have their BDSM fantasies outside marriage.
Why me or viril or others did not find BDSM + love ???? Well I can talk a lot about but this will not solve the problem.

In my opinion BDSM lover are divided in following categories:

1. 60% of them are people who never live their fantasies. People that do not dare even to register. That never contribute. Just look here or there, a quick masturbation in the bathroom and this is all.
2. 25% are people that live there fantasies, are actives on forums but have a high level of frustration. This frustration is also dropping in time. (This is virile)

3. 10% are people that live there fantasies, are actives on forums and have a low level of frustration. (I am fitting here)

4. 5% or less are men that live their fantasies with their wifes or long term partner. I am just speaking about straight people. I think for gay is easier to find a longterm BDSM partner.

[sebi40]

Sorry, I did a mistake

OP is not virile but is eric B. Apologizes virile
You are probably also in 3th category

OP , eric B has a psihological issue regarding his fetish.
He just did not make pace with himself

His post
http://femaledom.com/forum/showthread.php?18412-Sorry-for-the-troll-posts-everyone-hope-you-re-all-okay-)&p=142744&viewfull=1#post142744

is relevant for this discussion

At one point in time he wanted to move out of the closet showing a FB profile but he deleted after.
He is still fighting with his demons but this is a fight you will never win.

Anyhow I am an advocate for moderation.
If you not run only for your own pleasure then you can still be able to have vanilla sex. Yes true, you will never be as good performer like a vanilla guy but always is a trade.