Cultural BB differences.

[bizzybb]

Just wondering if there are any defining differences between Asian and Western Style ballbusting. In general their mainstream porn is different so i was wondering if this carried over to other fetishes as well. Thanks in advance.

[Julie18nz]

Just wondering if there are any defining differences between Asian and Western Style ballbusting. In general their mainstream porn is different so i was wondering if this carried over to other fetishes as well. Thanks in advance.

From what I have seen, there are incredible differences between Western and Asian BB. With a few expections, most Western BB I have seen so far has been about Domination and Humiliation. Whereas most Asian BB has just been that, BB, and no more. There are SOME Asain Domme sites, but they dont seem to be as common as in the West. They seem to enjoy it more and there appears to be less false BB from Asia.

Personally, I prefer the Asian BB stuff, as I am just into BB for the shear fun of it, and Dommination and Humiliation does nothing for me what so ever and I actually find it a bit of a turn off in most clips of it I have seen.

Well, thats my 2cents worth. I am sure there will be lots of people ready to disagree with everything I have said :)

Just an after thought, that may or may not get edited out by Sara :)

If all u have to say is "Ummm Duh, I dont know" it would be great if you could keep that to yourselves, as its DAMN anoying to us, who actually use this board for more than pic gathering, to go to a thread to read a new post only to find inane responses :)

[SadisticSara]

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Just an after thought, that may or may not get edited out by Sara :)

If all u have to say is "Ummm Duh, I dont know" it would be great if you could keep that to yourselves, as its DAMN anoying to us, who actually use this board for more than pic gathering, to go to a thread to read a new post only to find inane responses


Julie,
I'm depending on members like you to report those 'bad posts' to me so I can delete them promptly.
I'd appreciate the cooperation of all members in keeping "junk posts" off this forum. The link to report a bad post is the yellow triangle on the left that says "Report Bad Post" (as its 'alt tag').
Thanks.
- Sara :)

[Trouble]

[b]I'm depending on members like you to report those 'bad posts' to me so I can delete them promptly.
I'd appreciate the cooperation of all members in keeping "junk posts" off this forum. The link to report a bad post is the yellow triangle on the left that says "Report Bad Post" (as its 'alt tag').
Mine is a red triangle; should it work, anyway? ;)

Julie, I disagree with everything you said. Actually, no, but disagree slightly:

**Well-done** domination/humiliation is great. **Poorly-done** domination is dull. Same for a movie clip of a woman in supposedly sexy underwear who kicks a guy in the apricots -- if she doesn't know how to, you know, work it (knowwhatI'msayin'?) and the kick is bad, the bust looks fake, and his reaction is way off, then it's going to be uninteresting to those of us cursed with a really wicked imagination and a touch of class.

Just like obviously fake CB doesn't make your clit twist itself in a knot (woo!),

Um. Not that I watch hours and hours of this stuff and think about it a lot... :o

Th Asian pieces are often better because they aren't making a half-baked attempt at setting up a scenario and trying to make it into a short-but-good domination/humiliation scene which culminates with some BB; they cut right to the BB, have fun, roll credits. It's hard to make scenes really sizzle, even when you half good-looking models with whom to work. Almost all of this stuff is very low-budget and the models very inexperienced actors. To keep it cheap to produce, you can either make a lame scene (Western style) or you can cut straight to the sack-stomping (Asian style).

[SadisticSara]

Mine is a red triangle; should it work, anyway? ;)

Yes, Trouble. :D

I know your triangle works (even if it's red) because I've been receiving some "bad post" reports from you.
Thanks for helping keep these forums junk-free by reporting them to me.
I try to deal with all "bad post" reports as promptly as possible.

- Sara :)

[tsubushitekure]

I've lived in Tokyo for about 6 years now and I can tell you that the Japanese BB stuff is great. Best of which I have found is www.kinkeri.co.jp . I find that the Japanese are much better at thinking up crazy situations, procuring better locations (like renting out actual hospital, school, bank, restaurant etc sets). The girls seem to genuinely have more fun doing it which I really appreciate since it's much more arousing if I think the girl enjoys it rather than just something she needs to do to get paid. I also must add that the guys in the movies I've seen can put most of the western guys to shame.. The take stronger kicks and more of them. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels the disappointment of watching a new clip only to see a lame, off target kick send the guy to the floor for 5 minutes. I mean damn... edit those parts out for god's sake.
By the way, if anyone would like to come to Tokyo, I know several SM clubs where you can book ballbusting sessions.. gorgeous girls and nice rates.. I'd be happy to be your guide and translator. I'm American myself but speak pretty damn good Japanese.

Well this is my first post and it's about time for bed but I'll make an effort to give you guys the best of my personal collection and recommendations to clubs and movies I have experienced and seen.

That's all for now.

[iron horse]

They seem to enjoy it more and there appears to be less false BB from Asia.

I agree that there seems to be a lot of false BB in western cultures. One hallmark of much of the Asian domination scene is that they seem to have discovered the CFNM ("clothed female/naked male") aspect of subjecting the male to all his vulnerabilities. The first images I ever saw of beautiful and clothed asian women kicking or punching naked men in their balls was Asian.

CFNM is catching on more in the western scenarios of BDSM, including ballbusting with such sites as this one (femaledom.com) and a few others.

If the guy is naked, the woman can view his balls and direct her blows with accuracy into them. Being able to see the knee, punch or kick into his naked and exposed balls demonstrates for all those observing it that the blow was properly and successfully delivered. Ergo, there is simply no way to fake it. It is why many of us, myself included, believe that the man should *always* be naked in ballbusting encounters with women, and the Asians *seem* to agree with this.

If any are interested, I'll try to find and submit some of these BB images that go back a ways in time.

[me_no_wimp]

The Californian Girls site is also bb and not domination as such.

I prefer it if the woman is overpowering - i.e. the man is supposedly trying to avoid being busted but can't help it - that is the excitement, for me, and not a man standing there with his legs open saying to the woman "go on, kick me".

My preference is also for the woman to be dressed. The man may also be dressed but the balls themselves should not be adequately protected - boxer shorts or thin jogging pants etc do not provide much protections - jeans do.

I don't think you need to go to the extreme of hiring out buildings if you have a small recording studio and reasonable props.

I think having a small scenario that gives the woman a motive for kicking is a good idea.

[Julie18nz]

Thats the great thing with all the BB sites out there, and more seem to be arriving :) You can just about get anything you like now. Nude busts (not my fave, so I dont go to the nude bust sites), fully clothed, mock Sub, humiliation (another non fave of mine) If all sites were the same, then people with different tastes would have nowhere to go :( I am not sure what type of jeans you wear, Wimpy, but my boy friends Levis offer him NO proction what so ever when I knee or kick him :)

Its the "non humliation" in Calimean girls that I LOVE, its just girls doing what they LOVE, kicking balls.

[me_no_wimp]

I like the "girl next door" image of that site.

Kicking me in the balls when I'm wearing jeans is almost like standing on my foot with stilletto heels but with me wearing doc martens. Or maybe equivalent to standing on my chest but with me wearing a thick sweater. And actually I don't wear jeans very much, but you can kick me anyway whatever...

[jigab00]

I'm digging up this old thread, as I remember wanting to reply to it a while back, but never had the chance (long story). I was reminded of this thread due to the newer "Asian kicking" thread.

Firstly, I think one needs to separate out Japan and Asia if we're talking about fetish play in general. Fetishism in Asia (in general) is nowhere near as developed as in Japan. For various cultural reasons, the Japanese pornographic industry is uniquely varied (there are entire subgenres dedicated to the most obscure of fetishes - e.g. women farting, etc. Hey, before you say that's disgusting, don't throw stones).

Therefore, I would say culturally, Japanese ballbusting is far more focused on the actual ballbusting. In Western cultures, I think ballbusting is still thought of as a fringe of the classic "mistress" femdom subgenre. It also probably has roots in both the Japanese culture of being obsessive about detail, and the willingness of the Japanese to spend money on niche products - whether it be the latest ultra specialized gadget or in a specific pornographic subgenre. Over here, I think there's more of a "painting with a wide brush" mentality, where the producers have broadly defined the genre as "femdom" and are happier creating works that appeal to as broad a cross section as possible.

With respect to our mutual predilection, I find Japanese ballbusting (and really, porn in general) more focused, wonderfully playful/adventerous, way more varied, and on the whole far more erotic. Frustratingly, it is one of the harder fetishes to collect - not because it's not made (quite the opposite), but because few want to carry it or distribute it here.

If one wants to find out more about Pornography in Japan, there's a nice (but fairly light) article over at the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_Japan

As for other asian bb, I've only seen a very small amount of bb porn from Hong Kong years ago. Porn in any other part of Asia is extremely difficult to get due to horribly religious law - which is a real shame. The only possible exception is Thailand, but most of the porn is really American porn directors filming there or running studios dedicated toward releasing the material ini North America (and not for creating titles for the domestic market). Thus, it becomes same old same old, except with Thai girls. Add to the fact, most Thai porn has a disturbing streak of lolita complex (hebephilia) in them (although "lolicon" is incredibly popular in Japan as well).

J

[Inqy]

Hi Jiggy,
Thanks for the above epistle. I feel I've learnt summit. It’s clear that you are a real BB connoisseur. I’d agree with all above from what I’ve seen. When you get a Japanese lass to kick you in the balls she KICKS YOU IN THE BALLS. It rarely ever seems staged or that they’re not giving it all they got. :jumpsmile :jumpsmile
Inq

[BBoy]

Hi Jiggy,
Thanks for the above epistle. I feel I've learnt summit. It’s clear that you are a real BB connoisseur. I’d agree with all above from what I’ve seen. When you get a Japanese lass to kick you in the balls she KICKS YOU IN THE BALLS. It rarely ever seems staged or that they’re not giving it all they got. :jumpsmile :jumpsmile
Inq

Oh god yes! Some of the Japanese clips are so incredibly aggressive and ruthless! When I first saw them I almost creamed my pants! Thats what I'm after really, seeing a women let all her anger out on some poor sods nuts! :ibow4u:

[Magnum]

I saw a clip once quite awhile ago that looked like it was being filmed in Vietnam or some similair asian country. They were in this wooden hut and had a guy tied up seated on the floor. The gal was standing in front of him and stepping on his balls. It seriously looked like a real torture seen. This guy was screaming as she crushed his balls. He didn't look like he was enjoying it. It was a grainy and very poor video and the guy was not very well groomed. It just looked like they were really torturing this guy and the gals face was absolutely stone cold. This is a little off topic but if anyone has been watching this BB stuff for a long time (like me) they might remember an article entitled "3 girls crush mans testicles". Apparently these gals picked this guy up in a bar, got him drunk and took him home. Once there they tied him up to a counter and layed his balls out on a counter. Each one proceded to stomp on this guys nuts until they were mush. He died later because they left the poor guy and I guess died of shock. I can't remember what they were charge with but when asked why they did it they just said "because it was fun. Anyway, it was one of the first BB things I saw on the net and was quite a shocker. It was on a forum saying be careful what you wish for.

[rbdingo]

I think today we have no Cultural BB differences, but at 2005 it was yea )

[sicko666]

Hell i just had to post my feelings in this thread, I LOVE ORIENTAL BB!!!!!!!!!!
Hehehe sorry about that but i just had to shout it out.Western BB is sometimes quite fantastic,but every single oriental BB film i have seen is fantastic.Again like people have all stated above,its because they seem to enjoy it so much! The women always have a great big smile right across their faces and that gets me rock hard, not to mention the full force kicking! The only downside is they never come with subtitles so i know what the women are saying,and the censorship.....A couple of films the men wore a tight fitting pouch so you could see his cock and balls and know there was no protection at all,and because there was no actual genitals seen there was no censorship bubble.I wish they all used this method.
As for the info about the best Japanese BB makers,please continue to inform us of what the better films are called, and producers are,as i cant speak or read a word of Japanese so trying to search for something without even knowing what the names are is impossible! lol....

Ps i know what its like trying to get any films delivered outside of Japan, i was told by a seller its because they are only rated by the censors for Japan usage,and if they are sold abroad the costs to have them rated for international sale is humongous,hence no sale outside Japan because it would be illegal to do so without being rated.....Sad, but true... :(

[darthsidius]

One of the things that seems to be unique in asian syle BB is where a competition is set up with one or more females and a number of men and things often start like a real martial arts sparring session. Enrika Nagai used to do these. There is also the very famous "GIVE UP MISTER" clip, which is my favourite clip on the whole net.

In some of these clips there is a serious unstaged element to these competitions that I have not seen in non-asian BB. For example in the GIVE UP MISTER clip I think that they squeeze and the submission was totally genuine and it was also possible that the girl could have lost.

[User0001000]

The Japanese just aren't shy about it. They have a job to do and they do it. No need for theatrics or roleplays or scripts.....just finding a group of girls who obviously love it. In the end they make it seem more "normal," like it's obvious that a girl would be into it. The Western stuff seems like it always needs an angle.