Strap on is/isn't gay

[Richter]

Sorry, but this inane, stupid "debate" is cluttering up another thread. Just move it here you homophobes.

[gopballbuster]

Wow, I actually agree with richter, I won't say if strapon is gay or not, but all these homophobes need to settle down. It was beginning to take up too much room on another thread.

[gopballbuster]

By the way, inane and stupid mean the same thing

[Rebecca]

I hate homophobes! Wait! What does that make me? :)

Strap-on is NOT orientation specific.

Rebecca

[blubalz]

I'm not a homophobe, but i still think that if you want to get a strap on shoved up your arse really badly you probably have some gay tendencies.

[Richter]

By the way, inane and stupid mean the same thing

I'm an English teacher. Stupid in it's use here means marked by a lack of intelligence. Inane means senseless. It'd dumb and it doesn't make sense, so it's an inane, stupid "debate".



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[kickme000]

Excellent analogy via picture.

[johnny_cockNballs]

I don't think "strap on" sex is gay. It is more about "Power Play." The female using a male's penis (as proxy) to dominate him back, as he would try to do it to her. That is my view about it.

I love the situation where a woman turns everything around to punish a male. Trap his body, confuse his mind, injure his pride. What better way, to a man's mind and understanding, to use his own penis against him. It is Femdom at its very nature.

:thumbup

[One from the Vaults]

Could someone who thinks that liking anal means you're gay explain what they think of women who like anal sex?

Anal stimulation feels good. You're the ones who're attaching any other meaning to it.

and anyway, most gay guys don't even have anal sex... blowjobs and handjobs are way more common. Is it gay if a woman gives you a handjob?

[Snot]

I don't like to see strapon porn but as far as it being gay if its a woman giving it to a man I don't think it is. Well at lest not any more then dressing up in womans clothing, wearing chastity belts, and getting kicked in the balls.

[Dernholm]

There's also the question that if strap-on sex is gay, is it gay for the woman who is giving it also? If not, then that is a paradox. How can it be gay for the man but not for the woman? Even moreso, by definition that is heterosexual since they're of opposite sexes. But this really isn't related to ballbusting in any way, so it'd be best if we shut up in both threads, I guess.

[EggsForCrush]

i don't have any fantasy about strap on. and i am not an homophobe. actually i have some homosexual friends and i like them...

strap on is not related to your sexual choice directly... generally, it is a part of female domination in the videos which i have seen.. and there should be many psychological roots for it i think... so, i think it is not homosexuality...

also, if you have seen www.ballmoney.com videos, there are some male to male blowjob scenes in some of their videos. but all of them are ****** by a female there.. there is a different type of humiliation in it. but it is not extremely different...

and what if it is gay or not? if you like it,just do it... you dont harm anyone.. you are just having fun you and your partner together.. it doesnt matter how do you do that i think... just be careful about your health... if someone here likes strapon,use thinner ones and vaseline or some lubricant, and never make her do it fast and hard... there is a reflex arcus which could make you faint... and be careful about fissures around your anus... if you have pain there after your fun, and if it doesnt last in 4-5 days, go to a doctor if you can. if you cant go, use proctoglyvenol suppository 2 times a day, use some laxatives and have more fiber in your diet until your pain goes...(max 2 weeks)

[nutslave]

strap on play is not gay ... as others said it, it's only a form of domination.

[gopballbuster]

I'm an English teacher. Stupid in it's use here means marked by a lack of intelligence. Inane means senseless. It'd dumb and it doesn't make sense, so it's an inane, stupid "debate".
Sense is intelligence!
By the way; I have an English degree (even though I'm a history teacher).

[Richter]

Sense is intelligence!
By the way; I have an English degree (even though I'm a history teacher).

Do you have an intelligence of security? An intelligence of happiness? An intelligence of danger? An intelligence of self?

Do you have the best sense or the best intelligence? I'm voting neither.


"What do you do with a B.A. in English,
What is my life going to be?
Four years of college and plenty of knowledge,
Have earned me this useless degree."

[gopballbuster]

Do you have an intelligence of security? An intelligence of happiness? An intelligence of danger? An intelligence of self?

Do you have the best sense or the best intelligence? I'm voting neither.


"What do you do with a B.A. in English,
What is my life going to be?
Four years of college and plenty of knowledge,
Have earned me this useless degree."
Yes, one can have a sense/intelligence/awareness of danger.
Are you aware you're wrong? Do you have the sense to give up? I'm voting neither.

[Richter]

Good god. We're going to have a semantics discussion on a ballbusting fetish forum? Are you serious?

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For Pete's sake! They are similar words, which is why they were used to describe the same discussion. However, they do not mean the EXACT same thing (how about there? Can we meet the middle ground there? You can say I'm just coping out by saying they don't mean the exact same thing and I can stop correcting you).

[gopballbuster]

Okay, I'm will to meet in the middle.

[Nexus]

anyone else tempted to create a new post for these 2? :P

[gopballbuster]

anyone else tempted to create a new post for these 2? :P
Nah, I don't know about richter, but I'm done. :)

[devilkingrl]

probably not

[moosh]

anyone else tempted to create a new post for these 2? :P

Damnit Nexus, I just came to this thread specifically to suggest that :Baahaha:

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"Inane is/isn't stupid"

Sorry, but this inane and/or stupid "debate" is cluttering up another inane and/or stupid "debate".

Just move it here you pedants.

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[ballstothewalls]

Many of you guys may not like this but in my opinion. It's gay. Sorry but there it is. There's plenty of ways to get dominated without getting something shoved up your butt.

[zetsubou]

I hope the 'i'm smarter than you' bs doesn't continue.

It was quite enlightening to read the view on strapon that it was like having your own stuff used against you. That doesn't really occur to me, but i understand the idea.

Like i said in the other thread (more like implied) though is that strap on is considered in a femdom context as a big humiliation.

One reason for that, i would have thought is because everyone is a bit homophobic. Unless your bi, even if you have gay friends, who you don't have any problem with, you don't want to hear about their sex... and you don't want to join in, or emulate it. Thats only natural.

I wonder if people here have anyone who knows about their bb interest, but doesn't participate in the merry making. Might be a good idea for another thread sometime.

Back to the point in hand, strapon is commonly associated with being gay. Does strapon mean gay, no. Saying strapon means gay is like saying having children means paedophile. Obviously the assumption is more founded in reality, but its not an absolute.

I wonder if its true that people into strapon have tendencies.. I only know one guy who likes it up the arse... he is bi. But he does it with his girlfriend... is that gay? Is that slightly gay?

[giabread]

It has nothing to do with homosexuality. Prostate stimulation produces the same result for both gay and straight men. If it was a homosexual kink then straight men wouldn't have derided the same ammount of pleasure from it.

[+Matthew+]

Who really gives a shit?

[gopballbuster]

Who really gives a shit?
Also a good point, but several people must care or at least like to debate.

[+Matthew+]

I think I may have spouted this debate. I think I asked someone if they thought that a woman putting on a strapped dildo and giving it to a man from behind was erotic or something.

[zetsubou]

Who really gives a shit?

If you have an opinion and someone else disagrees with it, talking about it is something to do. Human interaction has quite alot of that..

[dharkbus]

It has nothing to do with homosexuality. Prostate stimulation produces the same result for both gay and straight men. If it was a homosexual kink then straight men wouldn't have derided the same ammount of pleasure from it.

I think its a homosexual tendancy. does it make you gay if you do it? nope. It might feel good but so do many other things I wouldn't do. If you want to do it and you consider yourself strictly straight then more power to you. I think its gay and always will because its an opinion (primarily since what is a gay tendancy is cannot precisely be defined. gay men may or may not do many things which doesn't define a precise set).

[ser123]

In order to answer directly exactly to the question I must say that I don't think so, I think that "strap on" that's nothing to do about gay feelings, that in the other hand people has all the right to feel this way.

I think that the strap on it's directly in contact with the idea of being possesed by a girl. It's the sensation to be her slave, to be at her mercy to be possesed by her in a way that them (the girls) can't do it due to a logical lack of penis.

Other question it's if we ask ourselves for the pleasure to be penetrated for other.

Personally I really get terribly excited with the idea to be penetrated for a girl, and I really dislikes the simplest idea to be penetrated by a man.

I insist, I respect each one decission, but I think that "strap-on" has nothing to do with a gay feeling. It's only FEMDOM.

[frostbyte252252]

I personally hate strap-ons. Anal in general I don't like. There is nothing sexy about the end of your digestion track.

[slavedickie8]

I don't think that strap-on is gay, as long as it's a women with the strap-on. However, it's not really my cup o' tea. Other people opinions about the subject shouldn't matter to you, if you are turned on by it. Besides, who are we to judge.

[gopballbuster]

I don't think that strap-on is gay, as long as it's a women with the strap-on. However, it's not really my cup o' tea. Other people opinions about the subject shouldn't matter to you, if you are turned on by it. Besides, who are we to judge.
Like I said before, I won't say if I think it's gay or not, but I really agree with the rest of the statement. I don't want strap-on done to me, but if someone else does, have fun with it.

[dark]

strap-on is GAY :bananajum:bananajum

I hope the next question will not be: Is it gay to stick a vibriator up in your ass? or is Elton john gay?
Anything that makes you take the role of a woman in sex is GAY.

[linklierok]

So... In your opinion all women are gay? Also masturbating makes you gay because it is making your hand take the "role" of the woman?


Its a piece of rubber. It has no gender. Its a gay experience if its a man pushing the strap on.

[dark]

come on man this is not a forum to argue, but your example is wrong. When you are man and you take the woman's role (in sex), you are GAY, but if a woman takes a woman's role, guess what? she is a woman!
A feminine man most probably is gay, a feminine woman is not gay, oh please why do I have to explain the obvious?
The "hand arguement" i tried to write in words but u r so wrong that is difficult to explain why you fantasize that you are using your cock as your cock and not your hand as your pussy. Do i make sense?

The vibriator is a piece of metal or plastic too... without gender, if you catch accidentaly a friend (man) of yours pushing a vibriator up in his ass, tell me what would you think, be honest. :o

[linklierok]

come on man this is not a forum to argue, but your example is wrong. When you are man and you take the woman's role (in sex), you are GAY, but if a woman takes a woman's role, guess what? she is a woman!
A feminine man most probably is gay, a feminine woman is not gay, oh please why do I have to explain the obvious?
The "hand arguement" i tried to write in words but u r so wrong that is difficult to explain why you fantasize that you are using your cock as your cock and not your hand as your pussy. Do i make sense?
The vibriator is a piece of metal or plastic too... without gender, if you catch accidentaly a friend (man) of yours pushing a vibriator up in his ass, tell me what would you think, be honest. :o

Forums are made to "argue". Yes my example is wrong, its based on your logic.

"When you are man and you take the woman's role in sex you are GAY" is not true, look up what gay means.

Wouldn't that apply to all femdom loving men? So all men who like when women emasculate them are gay?

So I try to write in words: u r so wrong. Its "obvious" to you because you have your own (incorrect) ideas of what "gay" means.

I dont have to speak for a "friend", i myself am a man who has had a vibrator used on him by his wife every few weeks or so for years. So once again by your wonderous logic I guess I'm gay, and my not liking men and having a daughter must be figments of my imagination. :wooow

[dzwitch]

In is incredible to read this thread, how many people can't see obvious things? Gay men are gay, so they do not want sexual relations with women, no matter if they're using their cock or if they're beeing fucked by the ass. Gay=no women, please! That was the definiton in the last centuries, I do not understand why changing that now.

Using strapons is just another fantasy for heterosexual men, like beeing ballbusted, dominated or dominating, I do not like strapons, but I like things like ballbusting, so I understand perfectly people turned on by that, is just another fantasy.

But anyway if anybody has doubts, just pay a guy to fuck you using his cock, you will clearly understand that you're not gay, but do not complain if you do not like that experience, as you've been warned: a guy smells and looks different than a woman, even if both use similar instruments between their legs.

[dark]

I will not argue about this anymore because am ok as long as something is far away from my ass. Don't forget though that there are a lot of gays or bi that they don't know it. My old fashion opinion says that there are also things that increase the probability to be gay , like moving your hips when you walk like on a catwalk and speak feminine, dancing like wannabe madonna, britney and kylie, or insert things up in your ass for pleasure ;)

anyway do you remember the episode of southpark when mr Garrison invents a very fast scooter/mobile? :Baahaha:

[crazy9]

Sorry, but this inane, stupid "debate" is cluttering up another thread. Just move it here you homophobes.

It's a fake penis, it's pretty freaking gay.

If you enjoy strap on, and hey, there's nothing wrong with that, then you're probably bi-sexual. Or close to it. Say here's the line.

Straight----------Bi----------Gay

You'd be in the red spot.


While we're on this topic, i freaking hate seeing porn and then they show a close up of the guys head, or the guy is saying shit.

Who watches porn? Guys, looking (presumably) at girls, we don't wanna hear your moronic voice it just makes me feel bad at how stupid the people are in it, and how bad i feel for the girl who's taking it from you.
You watch porn to be detached from emotion and to imagine you're in that situation, not to imagine that you're sitting there watching someone else be in that situation.

At least that's the way i look at it.

[Richter]

A recent study found that porn users are increasinly female, up to around 35% and growing.

[giabread]

Dark, I find your ignorance and hypocrisy to be quite appaling and offensive.

First of all, not all gays are feminine. Some of them are certainly more butch than most straight men which probably includes you.

Second, do yourself a favour and read what exactly means to be gay. Since I am so nice, I'll give you a short summary - to be aroused by a sexual experience with a person of the same gender.

Anal sex is a practice like many other practices, but there's stigma stuck to it by males full of complexes regarding their masculinity and whether they'd lose it if they take the submissive and receiving role in sex that is traditionally attached to women. As such, your prejudice has no place whatsoever in this forum.

All the more, I'd like to inform you that anal sex as a practice is much more pleasurable for a male than for a female, regardless of his sexual orientation. It's a simple matter of anatomy - females do not have a prostate gland to be stimulated.

And last, please, stop basing your ridiculous preconceptions on the 80s and 90s pop-culture and actually educate yourself regarding all these matters. Honestly, you probably think that all gay men wear pink.

How old are you, anyway?

[Richter]

Honestly, you probably think that all gay men wear pink.

Whoa whoa WHOA! Slow down! You just blew my mind!

[Vide]

I'm not sure if it's "gay" after all it's perfomed by women not my thing though

[giabread]

Whoa whoa WHOA! Slow down! You just blew my mind!

Sorry, didn't mean to do that. It's just that I am SICK of people spreading such malicious lies about the gay community.

[dark]

giabread,
sorry I never thought that I will offend the gays. I prefer to loose the arguement rather than offend your preferenses.

I know that they are also gays having a male role, and some of them have pretty tough look like skinheads with big bad black tattoos. I was speaking for a specific issue, about straightness and strap-ons. In other words all whales are mammals but not all mammals are whales.

To finish it you are right, I am not an expert of gayness, I haven't read any book about this, only articles in magazines etc

[theonewhohatesyou]

Sorry for that stupid question, but I don't have any experience with this stuff, so - what does strap on mean??

[Mr.E Dood]

It's a fake penis, it's pretty freaking gay.

If you enjoy strap on, and hey, there's nothing wrong with that, then you're probably bi-sexual. Or close to it. Say here's the line.

Straight----------Bi----------Gay

You'd be in the red spot.


While we're on this topic, i freaking hate seeing porn and then they show a close up of the guys head, or the guy is saying shit.

Who watches porn? Guys, looking (presumably) at girls, we don't wanna hear your moronic voice it just makes me feel bad at how stupid the people are in it, and how bad i feel for the girl who's taking it from you.
You watch porn to be detached from emotion and to imagine you're in that situation, not to imagine that you're sitting there watching someone else be in that situation.

At least that's the way i look at it.

Dude, I've never seen someone so hung up on things being gay. Why are you so obsessed with the topic of homosexuality? Thou doth protest too much I say.

Come out of the closed and admit it dude, you're a faggot.

[chocker]

Where does all this argumentative hatred come from? It blows my mind that there can be a community with fetishes and the sort where people come to join together to share their fantasies and the sort, and end up being ridiculed and ostracized for whatever they are.

First off, wanting anything in your ass means absolutely nothing when it comes to sexuality. And if it does, and you're a bible thumper, G-d wanted every male to be gay. Why give us the prostate gland? The most sensitive part on a man in is his ass.

Enough of these "You're a fag" statements. It's hurtful, malicious, and
childish. Unless of course you like being called a fag... but then I don't think here is where you'd want to see it anyhow.

Just be mature and sensitive to other people. We're on a fucking ball busting forum. We're already weird, heh, we don't need to push each other even FARTHER away. Enough of this petty crap.