Wife busts unwilling husband

[bbbb]

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/husband_9151___article.html/harris_genitals.html

[chefrn90]

You could have the ball busting experience of a lifetime. We should recruit this woman somehow...LOL

[gopballbustеr2]

I wish they had her pic in that article.

[gopballbustеr2]

You could have the ball busting experience of a lifetime. We should recruit this woman somehow...LOL

She's probably on YouTube somewhere and we just don't know its her.

[Alec Anaconda]

The world has gone mad; she should have been paid, not arrested!

[gopballbustеr2]

The world has gone mad; she should have been paid, not arrested!

I wonder if she knows about our community.

[bbbb]

The world has gone mad; she should have been paid, not arrested!
For we few of the kinky form, maybe... but in reality, what she did - on an unwilling partner, amounts to sexual assault and the law is 'supposed' to work equally, so just as a man - she should take responsibility for her actions.

[Sarah_The_Buster]

That's bad. It's one thing for ballbusting between consensual partners, but that's just sexual assault.

[doople44]

I agree with Sarah. That has nothing to do with female empowerment in the way that self-defense or women responding appropriately to harrassment do. SHe just sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant and probably masculine-looking woman, whose face has been shrivelled and gnarled by alcohol.

By the way, for me the erotic thing about ballbusting is beautiful,perhaps elegant but normal/everyday women (not dommes, or women dressed in costumes that make them look like either prostitutes or characters in some sad fantasy world) asserting their freedom and self-sufficiency. I would definitely call myself a feminist, who is attracted by intelligent women with a mind of their own. I wish there was more of a connection made between the ball-kneeing and rational feminism/the actual beauty of a woman. Sometimes I get the impression that a lot of the stuff posted here and certain pay sites is no different to regular porn, it just has a kink. You can see the women just need the money and are going through the motions. The best stuff IMHO features women in floaty dresses or, yes, miniskirts, but not so short that they may as well be naked. Femaledom has done some great stuff, but sometimes the costumes and make-up tend in that direction (and the dialogue is awful, imagine what a brilliant site it would be if the girls were making teasing, intelligent quips, instead of "spread your legs"x100 - I know: they're mostly foreign with no English, but still they could come up with something better than the BB cliches like "spread your legs"); Velvetkick, Cali Mean Girls, even Kickinggirls (before it turned into a chavvy tattoos-and-bikinis site) have achieved a good combination of visuals and dialogue, but I guess what I really yearn for is a revival of the 1970s ballbusting, and that shock it caused when it was something not really publicly acknowledged. This is the one case where the political was sexy.

Sorry for the rant, and I realise there's something hypocritical about some of the above, because I'm still paying to see women knee balls for my own enjoyment. I just think ballbusting is becoming a bit normalised, formulaic, and losing that edge it used to have. Those 4 seconds in "All's Fair", where 4 women kick a dummy in the jewels, urged on by their trainer while the husband watch secretly are better value than whole sites like Goddess kicks (sorry!) or any of those leather, paddle and whips cliche-obsessed sites, which lack any kind of soul.

[dustymech]

Well said doople44. The hottest ones are the ones who don't seem posed, but in my opinion are normal girls that have that certain look in their eye...

I'm not sure why some of you are joking about the original story, being members of this community you should know that one person's kink is another's abuse, and making light of non-consensual assault does nothing to further acceptance or understanding for anyone. All it does is further stereotype and misunderstandings.

[bbbb]

I would definitely call myself a feminist, I'm sorry that you support a political hate movement of supremacy, misandry and hypocrisy.

Or,do you support genuine equality? In which case, you are *not* a feminist.

[Sarah_The_Buster]

I'm sorry that you support a political hate movement of supremacy, misandry and hypocrisy.

Or,do you support genuine equality? In which case, you are *not* a feminist.
Very well put, feminism is not a good thing. Perhaps some thirty years ago, it was necessary, but it is no longer needed.

[castrati]

You guys are crazy:).

As far as am concerned, woman can tear balls of a man, if he agrees to it.


But this is plain wrong. Not to mention women that cut their mens balls off.

And I strongly support movements that fight for higher sentances for such crimes. As few years prison is not enough.

Dont get me wrong, I woudl let a girl ******** me. But thats my choice and my balls.

[gopballbustеr2]

Very well put, feminism is not a good thing. Perhaps some thirty years ago, it was necessary, but it is no longer needed.

You're right, gop. Women are legally equal to men, like this one. http://teflon.free.fr/images/headstand14.jpg

[doople44]

Feminism has become equated with all kinds of things from hairiness and bitter man-haters to Sex and the City, which seems to suggest that feminism is about women's right to do as much shopping as they like and to be as promiscuous as some men (in reality, or most men in film and TV) are. This is called post-feminism, apparently. Real feminism (and I don't deny that some women who call themselves feminists are utter opportunistic dunderheads) is about women being treated as more than mere sex objects, being given the same opportunities, and recognising that they can be brilliantly imaginative just as a man can. It is those qualities PLUS their readiness to bust balls if need be that make some women very attractive to me. And it is these women I want to see empowered and encouraged, the ones who desrve it, I'm not talking about all women getting an unfair advantage just because they don't have a penis. What I can't stand is the image of the woman as a mere prop (some of the women in clips and pics look like ballbusting dolls), and I hate to think of this as just another porn site. MAybe I'm kidding myself, but anyway.

I don't understand or trust the kind of man who only wants male friends so that the only female he knows is his mate. I find it childish, anachronistic and I think it shows that has been brainwashed by bullshit adverts featuring utterly twattish men stewing in their blokeishness and women only interested in Nivea face cream. Emancipated men and women (those of us who find those images laughable) are not that different from each other, it's only those of you believing in and perpetuating these myths who feel separate.

Obviously things have improved for women, but look at adverts or film roles given to women, they are still there to gawp at.... Even ballbusting women in films nowadays are dreadful turbo-capitalists who are permanently ruthless and aggressive, so that they don't get any more satisfaction out of it than they do when clinching a deal. I don't know how anyone can find them erotic. It would be like sleeping with a soulless android. I am in love with a feminist and she is the fairest, most honest, most rational person I know. She panders to my fetish with occasional threats in private (I don't want the pain, it's more about her awareness of her potential power that turns me on), but she would only do it in real-life if threatened or severely harrassed by someone. Would you really want to live with a woman like the one in the story? She's just plain nasty.

This is how I understand the psychology of ballbusting: there are two main ways or moments when a woman has complete control over a man: a) during orgasm, b) when she strikes him firmly in the testicles. In our minds, the two become confused, so a threat of a knee in the balls is like the promise of an orgasm. MAybe not a groundbreaking thought, but there you go.

[doople44]

tell me of a political movement that wasn't hypocritical in some way? Look at Nelson MAndela's party for goodness sake. And as far as this misandry business goes, why don't you try meeting a few feminists. You may find that some are bell-ends who just spout theory, but others will be no different from you. Just like people of any political persuasion (except Nazism and a few others possibly), some will have sensible, fair ideas and just want what's fair, others will just be self-interested tossers. The feminists I know only hate men who hate women.

Feminism is still a valid agenda, obviously we have to be on the look-out for women who are just trying to use it for their own advancement, but many women are still in a pretty crap position, particularly those in the lower class.

[gopballbustеr2]

but many women are still in a pretty crap position, particularly those in the lower class.

The entire lower class should be eliminated, I have no sympathy. Over 80% of people in prison for violent offences are lower class.

[doople44]

still thanks for all the files you put up before whatever snapped in you snapped.

[frostbyte252252]

Well OP that was disgusting. Women like that should be put to death. I hate man haters. A fetish is fine and fun but hurting a man's testicles when he doesn't want you to is criminal. Women get away with too much.

[Sarah_The_Buster]

Well OP that was disgusting. Women like that should be put to death. I hate man haters. A fetish is fine and fun but hurting a man's testicles when he doesn't want you to is criminal. Women get away with too much.


Well, I don't agree with the death penalty, but I would prosecute that in the same fashion I would prosecute a ****.

[frostbyte252252]

Eh, I just think it's disgusting. If a man grabs a womans crotch he gets arrested and put in jail for many years. If a woman does the same thing she may not get arrested and if so will not go to jail at all. Divorces? Forget it. My uncle got divorced, she took everything he had and SHE was the one who was the bitch. He tried to save the marriage but nope. She took everything. Face it women, our judicial system favors you.

[Sarah_The_Buster]

Face it women, our judicial system favors you.

I know it does, I don't think that's right, but that's the way it is. I think it needs to be changed, and I've told my bosses that, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

[frostbyte252252]

Well "Sarah" I have to ignore that because I know you are really GOP. I'm GLaD you understand.

[Sarah_The_Buster]

Well "Sarah" I have to ignore that because I know you are really GOP. I'm GLaD you understand.


So I changed sexes in eight minutes? That's impressive.

[Richter]

That sort of surgery usually takes a weekend at least, a couple months if you want a good job done.

[frostbyte252252]

Only yo get horrible and ugly results. It's a good thing for "Sarah" that he is really GOP and is already a man.

[Richter]

You know back to the story at the beginning, I've had something like this, but I was able to force her off me. A girl I cheated on said she didn't care about it and we went to bed and she tried to destroy my cock and balls. The cock gave her problems by staying limp so she worked over the balls until I realized what she was trying to do and wrestled her hands off. I've counselled a lot of **** victims and while it doesn't come close to the same intensity, it's the same feeling.

Of course, being the sicko I am, I masturbated for years afterwards remember the incident. Right after I kicked her out of the house, I jerked off actually, limping only as far as the kitchen.

[Sarah_The_Buster]

You know back to the story at the beginning, I've had something like this, but I was able to force her off me. A girl I cheated on said she didn't care about it and we went to bed and she tried to destroy my cock and balls. The cock gave her problems by staying limp so she worked over the balls until I realized what she was trying to do and wrestled her hands off. I've counselled a lot of **** victims and while it doesn't come close to the same intensity, it's the same feeling.

Of course, being the sicko I am, I masturbated for years afterwards remember the incident. Right after I kicked her out of the house, I jerked off actually, limping only as far as the kitchen.
Well, I'm really in no place to say if **** or ball squeezing is worse, as I've had neither happen to me. I take it your kitchen is near your door. lol

[daradles]

"Oh my god! What are you trying to do to me? Get away from me!
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Before you go, can you hand me that hand lotion and that box of kleenexes? Thanks"

[Richter]

It was more like touch it once, then clean the cum off the ceiling the next day.

I've gotten myself in some near castrations, fear for life situations and I always shoot a load like a rifle afterwards.

[bbbb]

Feminism has become equated with all kinds of things from hairiness and bitter man-haters ... through it's OWN actions. Ever heard of Mary Daly, Andrea Dworkin, Harriet Harman (harm men), etc.?

Repeatedly feminist women have done little but blame men for everything wrong in the world, claimed women would rule the world so much better and refuse to allow women to take responsibility for their own actions.
As an example, feminism promotes the mythical 'wage gap', implying that men have some underserved privileged status whereby they 'earn' more than women, dollar for dollar. They do NOT mention that men work more overtime, that the 'wage gap' studies don't account for two job types, that men take less sick time, travel further, make more sacrifices (family wise, etc.) and so on.
According to feminism's 'version' of the wage gap, a man who works 60hours as a bank manager, who's only taken 2 days sick in 5 years and been with the company 15 years should earn the precise same amount as a woman who works 39.5 hours a week at the local tap-house (bar), been off ill 3 times in the last 12months, travels into her local town and been with the company 5 years, one year of which she took off to have a child (her own choice, no less - no one '******' her to do so).
See how pathetic the argument is? But, rather than make these points to women (stop taking time off work, get a better job, don't have children yet, etc.) they simply blame men.


I don't understand or trust the kind of man who only wants male friends so that the only female he knows is his mate. Most blokes are quite happy with a mixed sex friends... Do you konw some who don't want to know women? WOW, I've never come across the men you claim to exist.


Obviously things have improved for women, but look at adverts or film roles given to women, they are still there to gawp at.... Given the choice, which would you prefer to be stereotyped as?

Hot, sexy, capable, ever-calm, always right, independant, strong, flexible, multitasking...
Or, what men endure in the adverts:
Homer Simpson, stupid, incompitent, having to refer to his wife for her superior knowledge on any and everything, abusive, sexually deviant, ******, etc. etc.?

Given the choice - I know which I'd prefer to see my gender stereotyped as. So don't play the pity-card, guys get fucked up on tv way worse than women. Women are admired - men are scourned.



I am in love with a feminist ... Would you really want to live with a woman like the one in the story? She's just plain nasty.Thing is, feminist emasculate/ ******** men in a metaphorical sense anyway - she ballbusts you reguarly, you just don't know it. Get divorced, and you'll experience the **********. Wave bye bye to your kids, that you love, having been falsely accused of abuses up on them in order for her to gain the upperhand, all this promoted by feminism.


This is how I understand the psychology of ballbusting: there are two main ways or moments when a woman has complete control over a man: a) during orgasm, b) when she strikes him firmly in the testicles. In our minds, the two become confused, so a threat of a knee in the balls is like the promise of an orgasm. MAybe not a groundbreaking thought, but there you go.And?


tell me of a political movement that wasn't hypocritical in some way? ...
Just like people of any political persuasion (except Nazism and a few others possibly), some will have sensible, fair ideas and just want what's fair, others will just be self-interested tossers.So you believe even the most fearful boy-soldier was as bad as Hitler? It's ok for you to condemn to have formulated my opinion on feminism as a hate movement based on what I have witnessed, learned, read, experienced and lived through - while you are free to express views about a movement you were undoubtedly not alive through? Sounds like someone thinks way too much of themselves.


And as far as this misandry business goes, why don't you try meeting a few feminists.I know plenty in real life and professionally. I am VERY in touch with the feminist movement, I daresay a lot more than you or your female-supremacist girlfriend is.


The feminists I know only hate men who hate women.According to feminism - every man is a potential ******, abuser and defiler of his own daughter... Feminism is a hate movement. Men - as a class - do not hate women. We adore them, as evidenced by your own words in the former post where you acknowledge that women are sexualised by us. They also sexualise themselves too. They choose to wear revealing clothes, they choose to sleep with men, they choose to wear perfumes & make-up, they choose a lot of things that men cannot (socially acceptance) do. Oh let me guess, you're going to blame men now "They do it to please men.... waaah" - well guess what buddy, how many times have you heard women say "I'm not doing it for a man, I'm doing it for ME!"? Exactly. So don't even bother trying to blame men on that score.


Feminism is still a valid agenda,Hating half the planet's population is a valid agenda?

[bbbb]

...she worked over the balls until I realized what she was trying to do and wrestled her hands off. I've counselled a lot of **** victims and while it doesn't come close to the same intensity, it's the same feeling.
I'm assuming you have been trained by a certain group who tell you what to think?
I for one, cannot see how destroying a man's genitals comes even close to regretted sex (often claimed as being a ****).

Now, if you're talking legitimate **** in which she was beaten, ****** and bruised... perhaps they come close in comparison. But I refuse to accept that a man's genitals are worth less than a woman's, just because she contains XX genes as oppose XY genes... which is what is sold to us when we are told **** is more worthty of protection that sexual assault upon men.

And yet, this is what our laws tell us. Women who have ********* and worse get a few years, if that, most commonly probation or suchlike - while a man can go to prison for 20+ years without a shred of evidence to support the claims. How many men are released by the Innocence Project who have been either mistakenly (due to no evidence/incorrect identifcation) imprisoned or because they were falsely accused (a shocking number of **** allegations turn out to be blatantly false - not mistaken identies)?

[doople44]

MAybe things are different in USA, or wherever you are, and maybe feminism means something else there. After all, the US was the birth-place of political correctness (likewise an admirable project to begin with at least) which seems to have been milked by certain groups. Anyway, I thought I made it quite clear that there are terrible, heartless, opportunistic women out there, maybe a certain strand of feminists are to blame for that (please don't lump feminists together, that is just plain stupid: I have an American friend who is a Republican and he hates Bush - in the same way many feminists hate Dworkin et al) but more likely it's capitalism. ANd before you start labelling me an idealistic commie, I know we haven't found a better system yet, but that doesn't stop capitalism turning people into utter nobshitters.

I think I may be so bold to claim that all NAzis were unpleasant people on some level without having lived through 1933-45. Sorry if that sounded pompous, I just thought it was self-explanatory.

Sorry if you've been through the shit-mill with a wife, but hey bbbb, a REAL feminist wouldn't get married in the first place and would HATE the idea that they were being supported by a man. That's why you need to find yourself a REAL feminist, who lives her own life and earns her own money as a matter of course just like anyone else and doesn't rub everyone's noses in it. Don't let money come into the equation is my advice, any woman who expects you to buy her love is a prostitute.

Best wishes

[doople44]

where on earth did you get the idea that my girlfriend was a female supremacist? She's a feminist - there's a big big big difference where I come from. AFter all, not all civil rights activists were like MAlcom X, were they? There were just as many MArtin Luther Kings. Thank God. My gf is a MArtin Luther King feminist! In your world feminists are the threatening X kind.

[bbbb]

Are there any scat vids here?
No, but the content coming out of your cakehole sure smells like scat just recently.


Anyway, Doople44, consider this:

Everytime a feminist says "Waaah, but women earn less than men" she is hating on men and spreading lies about us. Everytime a feminist claims "but 1 in 4 women are raped" she is lying, and spreading further hatred upon men as a class. Every time a feminist sugggests the Y chromosome is 'mutated' or 'inferior' she is spreading hatred and supremacy attitudes. Everytime a feminist claims domestic violence barely affects men and thus they don't need any help, she is spreading further lies & hatred upon men - as a class.

The vast majority of feminists will repeat those - and many others - lies without a thought for the truth in the matter. They are taught to hate, wihtout even realising it most of the time, through propaganda and such.

If your girlfriend didn't like Andrea Dworkin, did she ONCE write in and complain about the blatant hatespeech AD was spreading? Did she educate a single person on the misrepresentation of the data in AD's books? Did she just once ask for proof from an UNBIAS source?

If not - then she has fallen for the subtle hatred of men as a class, which is downright sexist.

And, as my profile mentions - I'm in the UK.
Here's a question to put to your feminist g/f...
Ask her how many years common women had to wait before they got the vote from common men having the vote. (i.e. how many years difference between common men & common women were there)
I await her response... And then, I shall open your eyes to the misrepresentation of the feminist battle cry "the vote".

[gopballbuster]

No, but the content coming out of your cakehole sure smells like scat just recently.
I know it seems hypocritical for me to say this, but remember, don't feed the trolls.

[bbbb]

where on earth did you get the idea that my girlfriend was a female supremacist? She's a feminist - there's a big big big difference where I come from. AFter all, not all civil rights activists were like MAlcom X, were they? There were just as many MArtin Luther Kings. Thank God. My gf is a MArtin Luther King feminist! In your world feminists are the threatening X kind.
If your g/f isn't a female supremacist (the Y gene is inferior, men are more abusive than women, men need no protections, women are smarter, etc.) then she clearly is NOT a feminist.


Here's some similarities between terrorists.


1] Feminists kidnap children and hold them for ransom.
2] Feminists tell the children their fathers are rapists and woman beaters.
3] Feminists spread false facts and ideologies.
4] Feminists make false allegations.
5] Feminists have a hatred for men that has no factual basis.
6] Feminists murder their own children prenatal and post.
7] Feminists do not in fact want equality but superiority.

1] Terrorist kidnap people who oppose them and hold them for ransom.
2] Terrorists tell their followers that Jews and Christians are murderers and theives.
3] Terrorists spread false facts and ideologies.
4] Terrorists make false allegations.
5] Terrorists have a hatred of Jews and Christians that have no basis in facts.
6] Terrorists murder their own children and men.
7] Terrorists do not in fact want peace but war.
The comparison
1] Both kidnap people one calls it ransom and the other child support.
2] Both spread hate against those who oppose them.
3] Both tell their followers that the ones who oppose them are vile and not deserving of life or liberty.
4] Both make claims that the otherside has done horrible things to them that
are they are the ones who are guilty of it.
5] Both hate their opposers even when it is proven that there is no reason for it.
6] Both are willing to kill innocents to further their own agendas.
7] Both are unwilling to listen to the facts and back down to let true fredom and equality a chance.
Like I said maybe it's just me but for some reason I don't think it is.
Al Quaeda or Al Vagina You be the judge!
(taken from another who's eyes have been opened)

Do you think every single Nazi soldier believed all the guff their masters were saying? Probably not, but they still taught it to new comers, just as not all feminists will believe the hateful lies told about men... but they still continue to repeat those lies *as if* they are truths.

As I said - You WILL learn this yourself in your own time when you are falsely accused of ****, abuse, whatever and imprisoned with zero evidence (confirming a woman's word holds more weight than a man's in legal circles). And it's ok.. when that time comes, you'll be depressed, lost your home or children (or both), social circle broken... etc. But, there will be other men who know your pain. And you'll be asking "Why didn't I see this coming?". Fear not, law makers are very slowly realising the damage their good intentions have cuased for society... and slowly, men will be able to stand proud again without fear of shaming from feminist circles.

[gopballbustеr2]

I know it seems hypocritical for me to say this, but remember, don't feed the trolls.

I couldn't agree more, Sarah.

[frostbyte252252]

Yeah I hate feminists. Mainly because they are just man-haters like the guy above said. I'd say very few feminists actually want EQUALITY. Most just want women to have more and better rights. It really sickens me. If woman want equality then they would also have to deal with the other side of equality. Meaning if woman want to make the same amount of money as men maybe they shouldn't call every little offensive thing to them at work a "HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT! SENSITIVITY CAMP 4 U!" Male employers sometimes don't want to hire woman for that reason. Woman want equality? Then they should accept all jokes. If a man can't talk the same way around a woman at the workplace than he would to his male friends than the woman is not equal, she is treated better.

If feminist wants to be treated equal there should be no "No hitting woman" rules. Equality means if a woman hits me with intent to hurt me I can knock her on her ass just as I would do to a man. But Nope. Feminists want to be treated equally for some things but better for others. It's a double standard I hate. Chivalry is dead an feminists killed it.

[doople44]

I thought there was a glimmer of rationality in your previous emails, now I see you are just bitter and mentally ill, projecting your own woes as general truths. I would never trust any statistics, but more women are raped by men than vice versa, and a proportion of these go unreported. Occasionally, women make unfounded allegations and should be dealt with much more severely when they do, but the way you tell it virtually all **** victims are scheming harlots. You need to find a different circle of friends, if these are the only people you come across. Why should my gf waste any time on Dworkin (and give this bitter cow any more attention) when she can be a REAL feminist and show people what she means by that by the way she lives her life? I dare say my gf may break my heart one day, but it will be because the reln is not working anymore and not in any of the ways you mention: neither of us believe in marriage (or that money should play any role in a reln - this is the key), neither of us want children, and we were friends for 5 years before we started going out. Modern feminism probably needs rebranding to include men too; it's really about living free of any gender-specific expectations, being treated in the the same way, and viewing each other in an open way. How can this come about when women are presented repeatedly as sex objects and men as smug, leering, posturing, performance-oriented, car-obsessed wankers? There is no such thing as "men" and "women" in that sense, and that's what pisses me off more than anything: that advertising pretends there is and that they're responding to it, whereas in actual fact they create and perpetuate it. I'd rather break my neck and choke on my own balls than be like the men in advertising (if you don't know what I mean watch Charlie Brooker's "The ten biggest cocks in advertising" on Youtube, and before you say anything, yes, there's a top ten that includes "she-cocks" as well). Have you ONCE written to complain about these? No, you're too busy, as is my g/f, she has a job to do - a job she is very good at and in which she is about to get a promotion after 7 years of hard work, the way some men and women still manage it. REAL feminists hate positive discrimination and the fact they are getting something they haven't earned, but the "feminists" you seem to know (some weird, bearded cult who've been living in a cave since the 1970s) might think differently. JUst to reiterate: I KNOW there are SOME women who exploit feminism, but that DOESN'T mean that it is not still valid in some way, and it annoys and amuses me when you presume to make judgements on my g/f, whom you've never met but think you know better than I do just because she calls herself a feminist, and you think yourself able to compress all the different strands and perspectives of this movement into one image of a barking mad man-hater because it is EASIEST. The world is a complicated place, feminism is a broad church, just as socialism is. After all, just because Stalin was an evil twat and just because in practice it is a system likely to be abused doesn't mean that socialism doesn't have MANY valid points. Mind you, you've probably got equally obnoxious views on that.

Still, I was more convinced by what you said in places than I was by Frostbyte, who is an unspeakable waste of skin by the sounds of things. You can stick your patronising chivalry up your jacksy, Frostbyte, and REAL feminists can have a sense of humour that is just as dirty as a man's. Obviously if jokes are being told to exclude a woman and make her feel uncomfortable she has a right to complain, just as a black person can if work colleagues start telling "jokes" about "nig-nogs". Why should anyone, man, woman, white, or black, be ****** to fit in with the brainless majority, whose views are well-represented in this forum, disappointingly.

[bbbb]

Yeah I hate feminists. Mainly because they are just man-haters like the guy above said. I'd say very few feminists actually want EQUALITY. Most just want women to have more and better rights. It really sickens me. If woman want equality then they would also have to deal with the other side of equality. Meaning if woman want to make the same amount of money as men maybe they shouldn't call every little offensive thing to them at work a "HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT! SENSITIVITY CAMP 4 U!" Male employers sometimes don't want to hire woman for that reason. Woman want equality? Then they should accept all jokes. If a man can't talk the same way around a woman at the workplace than he would to his male friends than the woman is not equal, she is treated better.



If feminist wants to be treated equal there should be no "No hitting woman" rules. Equality means if a woman hits me with intent to hurt me I can knock her on her ass just as I would do to a man. But Nope. Feminists want to be treated equally for some things but better for others. It's a double standard I hate. Chivalry is dead an feminists killed it.


100% correct

[bbbb]

I thought there was a glimmer of rationality in your previous emails, now I see you are just bitter and mentally ill, projecting your own woes as general truths.Ah yes, when you can't force someone to agree - namecall. Next, in typical feminist reactionary, you'll be telling me things like; I have a small penis, wasn't breast fed, live in my mother's basement, gay... etc. etc.


I would never trust any statistics, but more women are raped by men than vice versa, and a proportion of these go unreported. Granted - some go unreported. And some are false allegations. Yet, when feminists claim only 5% of **** 'reports' get seen in court, they include (but not mentioned) the false allegations too. But, why let honesty stop a good hate-mongering of men as a class?


Occasionally, women make unfounded allegations and should be dealt with much more severely when they do, but the way you tell it virtually all **** victims are scheming harlots.Not at all. But unlike feminists, I recognise that false allegations happen AND that they are continually given a mild slap on the wrist. Just the other day, a woman who caused an innocent man to die through her lies got no legal ramifications for her lies. Not a bean. The guy who actually commited the murder of the innocent man, who thought he was doing a good deed, naturally got sent down. But she - the instigator - got away with it... predictably.
And as I said, feminism demands that false accusers NOT face repercussions for their hate crimes against men. They insist on double standards; name & shame the accused man (innocent or not) but she must retain anonymity at all costs - even after proven to be a false accusation.


You need to find a different circle of friends, if these are the only people you come across. Why should my gf waste any time on Dworkin (and give this bitter cow any more attention) when she can be a REAL feminist and show people what she means by that by the way she lives her life? I dare say my gf may break my heart one day, but it will be because the reln is not working anymore and not in any of the ways you mention: neither of us believe in marriage (or that money should play any role in a reln - this is the key), neither of us want children, and we were friends for 5 years before we started going out. Modern feminism probably needs rebranding to include men too; it's really about living free of any gender-specific expectations, being treated in the the same way, and viewing each other in an open way. How can this come about when women are presented repeatedly as sex objects and men as smug, leering, posturing, performance-oriented, car-obsessed wankers? There is no such thing as "men" and "women" in that sense, and that's what pisses me off more than anything: that advertising pretends there is and that they're responding to it, whereas in actual fact they create and perpetuate it. I'd rather break my neck and choke on my own balls than be like the men in advertising (if you don't know what I mean watch Charlie Brooker's "The ten biggest cocks in advertising" on Youtube, and before you say anything, yes, there's a top ten that includes "she-cocks" as well). Have you ONCE written to complain about these? No, you're too busy, as is my g/f, she has a job to do - a job she is very good at and in which she is about to get a promotion after 7 years of hard work, the way some men and women still manage it. I've never heard of this cocks thing - is it legal, does it affect women throughout the country - does it cause them to lose anything like...their children? etc. etc.
Feminism has massive funds (from the tax payer) to hate on men as a class. If you're g/f hasn't investigated the likes of Dworkin, she clearly does not comprehend feminism and is simply naming herself as one without any actual understanding of it's background. That would be like me saying I'm all for racial rights, and having NO concept of the background.


REAL feminists hate positive discrimination and the fact they are getting something they haven't earned, but the "feminists" you seem to know (some weird, bearded cult who've been living in a cave since the 1970s) might think differently. JUst to reiterate: I KNOW there are SOME women who exploit feminism, but that DOESN'T mean that it is not still valid in some way, and it annoys and amuses me when you presume to make judgements on my g/f, whom you've never met but think you know better than I do just because she calls herself a feminist, and you think yourself able to compress all the different strands and perspectives of this movement into one image of a barking mad man-hater because it is EASIEST. No, I do so because experience time and time again proves that feminism is about hating men as a class. Just the other day, i was on another board and the feminists there say the same as you "feminism is about equality.... we don't hate men... no no, tha'ts old stuff, we don't do that any more..." and then proceeded to tell me what I think, as if they know, proceeded to tell me all kinds of stuff about myself, that when men look at women, we're excerting dominance and control over them, that men 'all the time' are wolf-whistling and shouting derogatory remarks at random women in the street, and so on... So yes, even when they claim they aren't man-haters, they STILL continue bash men as a class.


The world is a complicated place, feminism is a broad church, just as socialism is. After all, just because Stalin was an evil twat and just because in practice it is a system likely to be abused doesn't mean that socialism doesn't have MANY valid points. Mind you, you've probably got equally obnoxious views on that.Oh I don't disagree that feminism HAD it's place where it was needed, but that has LONG gone. It has been swallowed by hate & bigotry.


Still, I was more convinced by what you said in places than I was by Frostbyte, who is an unspeakable waste of skin by the sounds of things. You can stick your patronising chivalry up your jacksy, Frostbyte, and REAL feminists can have a sense of humour that is just as dirty as a man's. Obviously if jokes are being told to exclude a woman and make her feel uncomfortable she has a right to complain, just as a black person can if work colleagues start telling "jokes" about "nig-nogs". Why should anyone, man, woman, white, or black, be ****** to fit in with the brainless majority, whose views are well-represented in this forum, disappointingly.
Because women get away with 'jokes' about men anytime they want - as he pointed out, it is blatant hypocrisy that rules the feminist mind, not equality or decency

[frostbyte252252]

Ah yes, when you can't force someone to agree - namecall. Next, in typical feminist reactionary, you'll be telling me things like; I have a small penis, wasn't breast fed, live in my mother's basement, gay... etc. etc.

Granted - some go unreported. And some are false allegations. Yet, when feminists claim only 5% of **** 'reports' get seen in court, they include (but not mentioned) the false allegations too. But, why let honesty stop a good hate-mongering of men as a class?

Not at all. But unlike feminists, I recognise that false allegations happen AND that they are continually given a mild slap on the wrist. Just the other day, a woman who caused an innocent man to die through her lies got no legal ramifications for her lies. Not a bean. The guy who actually commited the murder of the innocent man, who thought he was doing a good deed, naturally got sent down. But she - the instigator - got away with it... predictably.
And as I said, feminism demands that false accusers NOT face repercussions for their hate crimes against men. They insist on double standards; name & shame the accused man (innocent or not) but she must retain anonymity at all costs - even after proven to be a false accusation.

I've never heard of this cocks thing - is it legal, does it affect women throughout the country - does it cause them to lose anything like...their children? etc. etc.
Feminism has massive funds (from the tax payer) to hate on men as a class. If you're g/f hasn't investigated the likes of Dworkin, she clearly does not comprehend feminism and is simply naming herself as one without any actual understanding of it's background. That would be like me saying I'm all for racial rights, and having NO concept of the background.

No, I do so because experience time and time again proves that feminism is about hating men as a class. Just the other day, i was on another board and the feminists there say the same as you "feminism is about equality.... we don't hate men... no no, tha'ts old stuff, we don't do that any more..." and then proceeded to tell me what I think, as if they know, proceeded to tell me all kinds of stuff about myself, that when men look at women, we're excerting dominance and control over them, that men 'all the time' are wolf-whistling and shouting derogatory remarks at random women in the street, and so on... So yes, even when they claim they aren't man-haters, they STILL continue bash men as a class.

Oh I don't disagree that feminism HAD it's place where it was needed, but that has LONG gone. It has been swallowed by hate & bigotry.


Because women get away with 'jokes' about men anytime they want - as he pointed out, it is blatant hypocrisy that rules the feminist mind, not equality or decency

a 100% correct for you as well. :D.

[doople44]

Better than resorting to dreadful word play, bbbb, if that is your real name: the "Harriet HArman (harm men)" pun was unforgivable.

I don't think we'll ever agree on much unfortunately. Are you actually into ballbusting then? If so, for God's sake why? I find it hard to understand what the psychological attraction would be for you. I think as a child I always found it annoying and unfair somehow when women ended a fight on TV with a knee or a kick. THat irritation developed into something pleasurable, but I also came to see it as a valid form of defence for a woman being threatened or harassed.

By the way, men are not a class, they represent a gender.

I dare say my gf knows more about feminism than you do.

[doople44]

why should any woman let a small group of extremists appropriate a term as important as feminism and dictate its content, and why won't you acknowledge that there are other strands of feminism? I'm sorry, but it's you who needs to do some research. There are thousands of different viewpoints on feminism from thousands of different women, and each woman interprets the term in her own way. Don't just pick out the most hateful just to confirm your own entrenched views. Another political example: Heath and Thatcher were both Conservatives, but Heath absolutely despised the politics of Thatcher. I'm not a Conservative, but think Heath was far more reasonable and human than Thatcher was.

[bbbb]

Better than resorting to dreadful word play, bbbb, if that is your real name: the "Harriet HArman (harm men)" pun was unforgivable.But given her hatred of men... quite apt and suitable. Similarly, having read much of Andrea Dworkin's work, I find her to be quite the Dwork... or, Dork.


I don't think we'll ever agree on much unfortunately. Are you actually into ballbusting then? If so, for God's sake why? I find it hard to understand what the psychological attraction would be for you. I think as a child I always found it annoying and unfair somehow when women ended a fight on TV with a knee or a kick. THat irritation developed into something pleasurable, but I also came to see it as a valid form of defence for a woman being threatened or harassed.Oh quite so! I adore BB as much as you or any other member of this forum. I'm not into the hard stuff (like needles and blood), but I do enjoy the power that a woman can exercise over a man using the pinnacle of his masculinity against him. I know it's all rather odd psychologically speaking and I've pondered this myself. However, like yourself, I too was pro-feminist in my youth - and then after researching it more in-depth, in conjunction with maturing into adulthood... I grew up.


By the way, men are not a class, they represent a gender. I'm sure you're not so silly you don't realise I'm using 'class' as a metaphor, a representation of what we are... And in fact, you are quite wrong - we are not a 'gender' - we are a 'sex'.
Gender is a word that is too commonly used, to the point that too many folk don't comprehend it's meaning. This has been heavily promoted by feminists (and other agenda driven groups) in order to declassify people and see themselves not as a sex, but of an individual mindset, thus removing the obvious connection of body to mind.
See:
GENDER - The socially-constructed concepts of masculinity and femininity; the “appropriate” qualities or characteristics that are expected to accompany each biological sex.
admin.utep.edu/Default.aspx (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=X&start=1&oi=define&q=http://admin.utep.edu/Default.aspx%3Ftabid%3D43916&usg=AFQjCNE-MhTcJfYPPcBDCMMM34xGDFBxnw)
and, SEX -
The biological classification of male or female (based on genetic or physiological features).
admin.utep.edu/Default.aspx (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=X&start=18&oi=define&q=http://admin.utep.edu/Default.aspx%3Ftabid%3D43916&usg=AFQjCNE-MhTcJfYPPcBDCMMM34xGDFBxnw)

An individual's gender classification - male or female.
www.arlingtonva.us/Departments/CPHD/planning/data_maps/Census/CensusGlossary.aspx (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=X&start=19&oi=define&q=http://www.arlingtonva.us/Departments/CPHD/planning/data_maps/Census/CensusGlossary.aspx&usg=AFQjCNGFoE7-6ZtM2HO307jbuCfJP5Sq8w)


I dare say my gf knows more about feminism than you do.Given that you seem to have difficulty comprehending/ identifying/ seperating sex vs. gender, let alone any other 'socially constructed concepts' in addition to having spent several years studying it (both positively and negatively), I daresay I know a LOT more about it than you and your girlfriend put together.;)


why should any woman let a small group of extremists appropriate a term as important as feminism It may have once been important... long time ago, but then... so was the wheel when it came about. But, uhhhm, we've progressed since then. Our new 'wheel' is the michrochip. You don't see massive campaigns everywhere talking of the wonders of the wheel - though in comparison, the wheel is clearly more important today than feminism. If feminism vanished - people would be happy(ier) and the 'war between the sexes' would vanish overnight. If all the wheels in the world vanished - we'd be truly fucked.


...and dictate its content, and why won't you acknowledge that there are other strands of feminism? I acknowledge different strands... but it's 'overall' impact is negative, hateful, bigotry, misandry, promotes hostilities, promotes uneccessary fears, demonizes men as a 'sex'/class and practises hypocrisy like it's going out of fashion. It has (past tense) done *some* good, but it is long, long beyond it's sell-by date.


I'm sorry, but it's you who needs to do some research.As I mentioned, I've researched it heavily. I run a fucking website about it!!! And no, for obvious reasons, I won't be sharing it's address on this forum. I've studied feminism for several years and been very focused on the matter for the last 7 years. What have you and your g/f got... a 6 month 'womyns studies course' which has a habit of sweeping the bad stuff under the carpet? I guess they don't mention that Erin Pizzey, founder of the first domestic violence home for women in London, England, received death threats from feminists when she tried to speak up about the truth behind d/v (that women and men are equally violent)? Don't they mention that when various researchers tried to publish their findings they too received bomb threats? One even had their daughter's wedding ruined in order to silence the truth...
In normal history lessons, we learn of the evil men have done.. the mistakes we've made. But what wrongs do feminists acknowledge? None.Ever.


There are thousands of different viewpoints on feminism from thousands of different women, and each woman interprets the term in her own way.But they are all taught the same logic - blame men.


Don't just pick out the most hateful just to confirm your own entrenched views. Another political example: Heath and Thatcher were both Conservatives, but Heath absolutely despised the politics of Thatcher. I'm not a Conservative, but think Heath was far more reasonable and human than Thatcher was.And?

[frostbyte252252]

Woo you tell him bbbb. I would type out my opinion on the matter now but you've already done that for me. God that saves a lot of typing. Thanks!

In short: Any problem a feminist is faced with is a man's fault.

[gopballbustеr2]

All feminists are dykes.

[bbbb]

Woo you tell him bbbb. I would type out my opinion on the matter now but you've already done that for me. God that saves a lot of typing. Thanks!



In short: Any problem a feminist is faced with is a man's fault.

Thank you, thank you, dear fans...
http://69.90.174.252/photos/display_pic_with_logo/54820/54820,1173559229,1.jpg

I bow to my wonderful audience.

Thank you , again.

[frostbyte252252]

heh I choked on my drink when I saw that. lol.

[gopballbustеr2]

I'm sick of all the shit fighting going on in this thread. C'mon guys cut it out. This is a BALLBUSTING forum afterall.

[clicker123]

what brought on the feminist thing??? also the fighting will stop when someone steps up to be the bigger man (or woman) i am not fighting or starting or finishing any fights that are brought up and i suggest you all do the same...even if you are angry get it out without all of us needing to see it...it makes someone else even angrier and they follow your example. thank you

[doople44]

that makes no sense whatsoever. Don't you have grammar in Ohio? :) You're right though, I shouldn't have bothered bringing up this topic in such a nest of bigots, incapable of grasping (or unwilling to grasp) the intricacies of the world. But they are determined. These are the same kind of people who read the whole of Koran just so they can prove how evil or flawed Islam is.

Anyway, politics, schmolotics.

bbbb is probably right, feminists are actually blood-sucking spiders, collecting blood for the Queen Bitch HAiry Spider, Dworkin, who alone controls feminism and strangles men with the great creepers of hair hanging off her legs and armpits.

Frostbyte should be impaled on the member of a proud stallion :)

[doople44]

if you can produce a list of 30 evil women on the same scale as Hitler, Stalin, MAo, Pol Pot, etc. I will let the matter lie.

And if you really know so much about feminism can you recommend a book by a moderate feminist? - one who is critical of Dworkin, Judith Butler and the more extreme feminists? Or could you perhaps sketch the finer distinctions between schools of feminism? If there were no distinctions (even theoretical), then I fail to see how Wimmins' (incidentally, that's how Private Eye spelt it, I think, when they were mocking 70s femmos) Studies courses could take place.

I don't think you have read as widely as you claim, I think you are one of these blokes who stands up at the end of a council meeting and says "I've listened to all you have to say, and all I can say is it's all bollocks" - because that's what he was going to say from the moment he entered the meeting.

All this guff about bomb threats, etc. made by "feminists" (representing all feminists) of course and not just random nutters - my God, you sound eerily like David Icke or Alan PArtridge at times.

Actually, are you David Irving? You argue in the same way...

[doople44]

bbbb, I'm not some wet-arsed college boy. I picked up a PhD many years ago and I've wiped old people's arses for a living (what you might call University of Life), so you can drop the patronising tone.

What you are trying to say about sex and gender is not clear. Could you please rephrase it? Feminists presumably use the term gender to show how men and women have been reduced to dubious roles.

[linklierok]

I gotta leave this thread, its turning me on too much...:D

[lovethatflavor]

I do have to say that the reason women aren't discussed in history classes is because of the fact that women weren't in a major role of power until recent. Most of the major atrocities committed on the world were done by the rulings of men. I'm sure that wont be the same in the future when women are placed in higher standing. Assholes are assholes regardless of "sex", and everyone should pay equally for the crimes they commit.

[doople44]

a voice of reason

[bbbb]

Ignoring the name-calling from the PhD... I'll move onto the other posts.

Lovethatflavour - correct. However, feminists have repeatedly tried to claim that female leaders would do it all differently, avoiding war and such. Conversely, when we have had female leaders... they've sent men to war. I guess the feminist lies just don't fly well in the face of history.

Sadly, as evidence in the name-calling post, the point I made above remains true and evidenced by he who tries to claim the moral highground.


In normal history lessons, we learn of the evil men have done.. the mistakes we've made. But what wrongs do feminists acknowledge? None.Ever. which was replied to with:

All this guff about bomb threats, etc. made by "feminists" (representing all feminists) of course and not just random nuttersSo, as I said - feminism's wrongdoings are simply swept under the carpet... There is no point in discussing with someone so hell bent on their mentality that females are superior to men, and threatening people's lives is seemingly an acceptable 'cost' in the agenda to promote men as lesser beings.

[lovethatflavor]

Ignoring the name-calling from the PhD... I'll move onto the other posts.

Lovethatflavour - correct. However, feminists have repeatedly tried to claim that female leaders would do it all differently, avoiding war and such. Conversely, when we have had female leaders... they've sent men to war. I guess the feminist lies just don't fly well in the face of history.

Sadly, as evidence in the name-calling post, the point I made above remains true and evidenced by he who tries to claim the moral highground.

which was replied to with:
So, as I said - feminism's wrongdoings are simply swept under the carpet... There is no point in discussing with someone so hell bent on their mentality that females are superior to men, and threatening people's lives is seemingly an acceptable 'cost' in the agenda to promote men as lesser beings.

...some bitchy ass women and some calm and controlled women. In general every individual is out for them self and for what they can get out of others. By playing the victim a lot of women get ahead making the rest of us women look bad by association. I think only a rational level headed person should be in power regardless of gender. The wrong doings of men and women are swept under the carpet consistently. Everyone gets away with something at one time or another. No one should hate anyone on principle. Especially if that principal is gender.

[Hasta]

...some bitchy ass women and some calm and controlled women. In general every individual is out for them self and for what they can get out of others. By playing the victim a lot of women get ahead making the rest of us women look bad by association. I think only a rational level headed person should be in power regardless of gender. The wrong doings of men and women are swept under the carpet consistently. Everyone gets away with something at one time or another. No one should hate anyone on principle. Especially if that principal is gender.

I like this lady. Not sure why the point is being argued...but the point is excellent.

[bbbb]

I like this lady. Not sure why the point is being argued...but the point is excellent.
I fully agree.

[Dix]

I've read this whole thread through and it quickly changed from a woman attacking her husband to something political regarding feminists. All of the feminist criticism being valid.
I think it started out great. A wife attacked her husband because she was pissed off at him and used her knowledge of the male's vulnerable uniquness to hurt him. It's logical to me.
I think it all boils down to this;
She has been advised by women, the media, women's self defence instruction, men and probably even her husband that if you want to hurt a male go for his testicles. The reason is that his testicles are the quickest and easiest way to hurt a male and make him helpless. It takes less effort than anything else she could do. She did what any smart girl would do. If she would have gone in and punched him in the face or chest or slapped him, she probably would have lost the fight.
All I can say is "good for her" for a no nonsense and effective tactic. I'd love to have a small chat with her. Could be interesting.

[lovethatflavor]

I've read this whole thread through and it quickly changed from a woman attacking her husband to something political regarding feminists. All of the feminist criticism being valid.
I think it started out great. A wife attacked her husband because she was pissed off at him and used her knowledge of the male's vulnerable uniquness to hurt him. It's logical to me.
I think it all boils down to this;
She has been advised by women, the media, women's self defence instruction, men and probably even her husband that if you want to hurt a male go for his testicles. The reason is that his testicles are the quickest and easiest way to hurt a male and make him helpless. It takes less effort than anything else she could do. She did what any smart girl would do. If she would have gone in and punched him in the face or chest or slapped him, she probably would have lost the fight.
All I can say is "good for her" for a no nonsense and effective tactic. I'd love to have a small chat with her. Could be interesting.
...sure what provoked the attack on the male, but really the argument was about the punishment differences between men and women. For example a woman can get away with an abuse crime such as this much more easily than a man could. Which does tend to be true. It ended when all parties involved agreed that they all felt everyone "should" be treated as equals. The extended argument stemmed over the semantics of feminism which isn't and shouldn't be important in a forum about ball busting.