Request for Ballbusting Pornstars to have their own sub forum

[blkpatent]

I'm really not a fan of that site or the content. I for one don't want my porn mixed with ballbusting nor do I like the biting and skimpy clothing. I get tired of going into threads and seeing pics form that site. I know this is probably just me but I'd rather they have their own place to post content on rather the main ballbusting board.

[Pupuce]

Agreed. Or simplier: ban that guy. Advertising on another site for your own site is just plain rude.

[misterjover]

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I will gladly leave if that's what the majority wants.

[poolman2]

misterjover,

I appreciate your contributions.

Don't let yourself be driven from this forum by malcontents and trolls. We've already lost others due to the obnoxiousness of a few. So don't let yourself be pushed around by naysayers.

poolman2

[ty509]

I'm really not a fan of that site or the content. I for one don't want my porn mixed with ballbusting nor do I like the biting and skimpy clothing. I get tired of going into threads and seeing pics form that site. I know this is probably just me but I'd rather they have their own place to post content on rather the main ballbusting board.

Either of you guys could just as easily click "misterjover" and then click "add to my ignore list".

I can't believe how much shit this guy gets for posting free previews (and, having subscribed to his site, there's some good stuff on there).

If you're actually too lazy to add him to your ignore list, use your pagedown key and zip right past the "offending" items.

[Su0]

I've liked every single one of your sample clips. But indeed some people are easily annoyed by such. In my opinion, they should just shut up as long as there is same good free material, eventhough just samples. :)

[mick_sl8ter]

I welcome his 'spam'.

He does not post the same content in multiple threads.
And his regular updates are a valuable contribution to this forum.

However I agree that it would be better if misterjover got his own subforum. But unless femaledom.com and ballbustingpornstars.com (misterjover) are allied websites, I see little chance that he will get his own subforum.

In the meanwhile don't be disrespectful towards him or his work.
You yourself are also free to leave this forum.

[Alec Anaconda]

There a few things in this world quite as ugly as censorship.

I cannot see why anybody feels the compulsion to object to a safe and on-topic site.

Why should misterjover not ask for a little help towards his expenses?

This forum has at least one moderator and it must have an owner; I suggest that they alone have the right to dictate content.

Keep posting, sir!

[smackMyNuts]

I'm really not a fan of that site or the content. I for one don't want my porn mixed with ballbusting nor do I like the biting and skimpy clothing.

You don't want porn mixed with ballbusting? What are you talking about? You have a picture of a naked man being kicked in the balls as your profile picture. Pornography is that which is meant to arouse. You're spouting nonsense.

If you only find CFNM ballbusting sexy then fine, that's your fetish. Don't expect the rest of us to be the same. If you don't like mister jover's posts, then put him on ignore.

[Pupuce]

I can't believe how much shit this guy gets for posting free previews

Yeaaah, I cannot believe how is it that we don't welcome and thanks adverts between tv shows or in the street.

Oh wait, it is because it helps those making those adverts earning money. That dude does not post "free preview" out of niceness, he does because Sharon doesn't moderate forums and that he can take advantage of this.

It is just very rude, bad-mannered. This is a FORUM. Not an advertising place. Post entire videos if you really want to be part of the community and not a leecher of femaledom.com's work.

[mick_sl8ter]

Yeaaah, I cannot believe how is it that we don't welcome and thanks adverts between tv shows or in the street.

Oh wait, it is because it helps those making those adverts earning money. That dude does not post "free preview" out of niceness, he does because Sharon doesn't moderate forums and that he can take advantage of this.

It is just very rude, bad-mannered. This is a FORUM. Not an advertising place. Post entire videos if you really want to be part of the community and not a leecher of femaledom.com's work.
And of course you never downloaded any of his video's. :confused:

[Jedi]

I've taken my fair share of shit on this forum before so feel free to flame me for backing up mrjover here.
Running a website such as ballbusting pornstars is no 5 minute a day job. It takes hours of invested time and of course money. So why should someone not have the right to promote their work to spread the word and try and get some recompense for their investment?
Sharon does welcome certain webmasters to promote their material here. The ones she doesn't are the ones you will usually see asterixed out by the swear filter if you try and type the url into a post. In return Femaledom get traffic back in the form of a reciprocal link back. Its not rude and is in fact good for business for Femaledom in some cases.
If these posts were made in Femaledom.com general disucussion forum at the top then maybe that would be a little rude. But as it happens this is a general ballbusting forum which appears to have very little to do with femaledom.com topics. In fact much of it seems to be people seeking and posting freebies of content from other sites. Now that's rude, but I'm sure Pupuce has no interest in such posts.
In gerneral forums on the net are a valuable tool for producers to promote their content. As with any produdct advertising is very important to getting your product visible to the public eye, and forums are one of the main ways that people do this.
It appears that most other forum folk don't have a problem with this but for some reason the members of this forum are particlarly hostile. Hence I can't be bothered to come here much these days. Yes, hurrah I hear all the haters cry. :bananajum
Misterjover I would be happy to set you up with a sub forum on my forums at ballbusting forums dot com if you wanted. Just email me and we can work something out.

[sloguy]

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I will gladly leave if that's what the majority wants.

on the contrary, im offended that people complain about your contributions. what have they done to contribute?

[gary198]

Agreed. Or simplier: ban that guy. Advertising on another site for your own site is just plain rude.


I've got a simple answer. DO NOT READ THEM if you do not like them. i personaly do not care for nut stomping, i prefer hands on grabs. That does not mean i am childish enough to demand that the thread be banned. in case you didn't know it : CENSORSHIP IS BAD.

[Pupuce]

And of course you never downloaded any of his video's. :confused:

I have, when he started. Because advertising in that kind of way wouldn't annoy me if it was rare. Except it's not, and that it became a real spam, a nuisance on these forums. So yeah, I support the OP idea, get a subforum for people willing to leech off femaledom.com's success to get money.

Oh and my neighbor let me punch him in the face three times a day. That therefore proves that punching people is the face in okay. Great minds meet in this thread.

[ty509]

Okay, one difference between forum posts and ads on tv is this: you can literally click two (2) times and NEVER SEE HIS POSTS EVER AGAIN.

Secondly, considering that this is a forum where his films have a history of being illegally leaked and downloaded (this is in some places known as theft), I totally understand trying to advertise here. Fair's fair.

Also, his profit-motivated previews are more substantial than many (not most, but many) of the posts in various threads here. I'm not saying that to disparage the forum exactly, but you may recognize some of the following: "I don't like her boobs", "that guy who's posting as me isn't really me", "any sexxxy ladiez wanna kick me, a stranger with no personal information listed, in the balls?", "somebody plz send me your entire bb collection", "meh, that vid wasn't that impressive", "here's my reply to a picture posted 6 months ago", "I'm going to continue to ignore the rules of this thread by posting text only" etc etc. I just feel like, given the wealth of hate-able posts on this forum (not a majority, but I've been around for a while and there's a fair amount), misterjover isn't really on my hating priority.

I'd like to conclude by reiterating the following: no matter how prolific of a poster misterjover might be, despite however many threads he might post on, you can just click his name, then click the link that adds him to your ignore list, and then you NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT EVER AGAIN. Perhaps you might want to add that to your signature, misterjover.

[mick_sl8ter]

As mentioned before by someone else:
He is just trying to get some financial compensation for the work he does.
There is nothing evil about that.

To me it is clear that he is not in it for the money, ballbusting porn is his passion. And lots of people here are watching his video's for free.

Then please allow the man to get some financial compensation.
At least with him you know there is not a huge money-hungry organisation behind him. He does it all by himself. He deserves to get at least his investment back, because his video's are more than OK to watch.

[mick_sl8ter]

Misterjover,

If you make a video, with girls ballbusting in avatar make-up like this:
http://pix.4gifs.com/gallery/d/159740-1/Avatar.jpg

Then I am willing to pay the money to cover the production costs.
(So you will have an immediate return of investment.)

I got some guys here that are willing to pay money for avatar porn, the ballbusting part is just our added extra :)

I hope you like the idea and are able to find the make-up artist and girls willing to participate.
What do you estimate will be the cost of such a production ?

Thanx.

[Alec Anaconda]

That, Mick Slater, just has to be the most tactful site advert in the history of this forum.

Well done!

[convexion]

I would like to see the postings from Mr. Jover. If you don't, then add him to your ignore list. Don't be such a dope.

[joojoo]

I'm really not a fan of that site or the content. I for one don't want my porn mixed with ballbusting nor do I like the biting and skimpy clothing. I get tired of going into threads and seeing pics form that site. I know this is probably just me but I'd rather they have their own place to post content on rather the main ballbusting board.

%100 agree.
they should limit their post to a dedicated thread.

[thornapple]

I say, "POST 'EM IF YA' GOT 'EM!!!!

Carry on misterjover, smackMyNuts, Alec Anaconda and all the rest of you that post here!

People bitch about a few folks advertising; so what, they are posting related content. If femaledom didn't think it was okay for them to post here they would remove them. They remove people all the time for copyright infringement, and usually pretty damn quick.

[misterjover]

Thanks for all your comments!


:jumpsmile


To name a few... Jedi, Smackmynuts, Anaconda, Teardrop, Rachelfights and Vittoria all are producers who advertise, share, and trade traffic with this forum. We have been given permission by Sharon and Femaledom.com to share our content here in exchange for traffic to this site.

We all have a mutually beneficial relationship, and I am very proud to announce that Sharon receives lots of new visitors and members from my website as I do from hers. Instead of focusing on the negatives, lets focus on the positives and spread the word about this forum too.

Thanks to everyone's contributions, this is an excellent place to express opinions and share fetish content. Some of us have problems "celebrating differences" , but we all should acknowledge the fact that each producer has something unique to offer to the ballbusting community.

This is a small community, and we all should support each other to help it grow... and to create more content with diversity and variety for its fans and followers. Doing so would increase the popularity of our fetishes and ultimately lead to more opportunities for producers, actresses and website owners alike.

I sincerely appreciate people who have supported me by joining my site and donating praise.


To everyone in this forum, as a token of my friendship, I will share with you one of my copyrighted movies, starring me and my friend, fellow ballbuster Amber Rayne (http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/femdom-ballbusting.html)!

I filmed this back in November 2008, but it is still one of my favorite scenes. This was released on DVD in January 2009 for Cockbiting Femdom ********** Fantasies Volume 1. This link will be active in about 1 hour from the time of this post, and it will be online for 7 days:




http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/photos/amber-rayne-cockbiting.jpg (http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/amberrayne1-fullb.wmv)


http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/amberrayne1-fullb.wmv


Enjoy the video, and thank you again for expressing your opinions, ideas and comments.


:thumbup


- Eric Jover

[smackMyNuts]

To name a few... Jedi, Smackmynuts, Anaconda, Teardrop, Rachelfights and Vittoria all are producers who advertise, share, and trade traffic with this forum. We have been given permission by Sharon and Femaledom.com to share our content here in exchange for traffic to this site.


Just to be clear, I wouldn't put myself in exactly the same category as the others. I'm not really a producer. I'm just a guy who videotapes he and his wife's play every once in a while (pretty infrequently these days) and sticks it up for free on the web. I don't make any money off the videos. That said, because I do throw a link to my site in my signature, I did make sure to comply with the site policies on advertising which requiring that I link back to them as well.

Smack

[tupapijuan]

The majority have spoken: Ballbusting Porn Stars stays.:ibow4u:

[Alec Anaconda]

To name a few … Anaconda … are producers who advertise, share, and trade traffic with this forum.


I write, occasionally, but only as a hobby.
I write only when I have a fantasy to share and only because I enjoy it.
If I were to total up income and expenses, it costs rather than makes money.

Some people who I have convinced to publish their work have fewer hobbies, are more talented and dedicated than me; they earn a modest reward for their effort.

I post here because it’s a place I want to be, a place where I can discuss matters freely, without fear of ridicule or being considered kinky.
Unlike some other forums, I feel I can write what I think, without some self-important moderator banning me.

Yes, there is an advert in my signature, but very few people take the links.

Occasionally, I post an extract from one of my books.
If I’m lucky, people give praise or raise constructive criticisms.
However, I certainly don’t expect to sell books here, as the main preference seems to be for faster and more graphic entertainment.

Alec Anaconda

PS. Thank you for the video, I especially enjoyed the sequence starting with the kicking and punching (about 13 minutes in).

[TommytheCoolCat]

Thanks for all your comments!


:jumpsmile


To name a few... Jedi, Smackmynuts, Anaconda, Teardrop, Rachelfights and Vittoria all are producers who advertise, share, and trade traffic with this forum. We have been given permission by Sharon and Femaledom.com to share our content here in exchange for traffic to this site.

We all have a mutually beneficial relationship, and I am very proud to announce that Sharon receives lots of new visitors and members from my website as I do from hers. Instead of focusing on the negatives, lets focus on the positives and spread the word about this forum too.

Thanks to everyone's contributions, this is an excellent place to express opinions and share fetish content. Some of us have problems "celebrating differences" , but we all should acknowledge the fact that each producer has something unique to offer to the ballbusting community.

This is a small community, and we all should support each other to help it grow... and to create more content with diversity and variety for its fans and followers. Doing so would increase the popularity of our fetishes and ultimately lead to more opportunities for producers, actresses and website owners alike.

I sincerely appreciate people who have supported me by joining my site and donating praise.


To everyone in this forum, as a token of my friendship, I will share with you one of my copyrighted movies, starring me and my friend, fellow ballbuster Amber Rayne (http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/femdom-ballbusting.html)!

I filmed this back in November 2008, but it is still one of my favorite scenes. This was released on DVD in January 2009 for Cockbiting Femdom ********** Fantasies Volume 1. This link will be active in about 1 hour from the time of this post, and it will be online for 7 days:




http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/photos/amber-rayne-cockbiting.jpg (http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/amberrayne1-fullb.wmv)


http://www.ballbustingpornstars.com/amberrayne1-fullb.wmv


Enjoy the video, and thank you again for expressing your opinions, ideas and comments.


:thumbup


- Eric Jover

I want to thank you for sharing one of your works, I truly appreciate your efforts as a film maker specializing in ballbusting. My biggest fetish is ball biting and that is also one of the hardest things to find on the web. So I say thank you and keep up the good work!

TommyTheCoolCat

[Pupuce]

The majority have spoken: Ballbusting Porn Stars stays.:ibow4u:

Yes, because it is well known that people that are annoyed will AAALL POST. Wait, no.

Hypocrisy reigns at its best in here. Trying to call it something else than spam is retarded. It is advertising. It is advertising unwanted by many; that's the definition of spam. Get on your high horses as much as you want, facts are against you. Facts say your posts are spam. Of course we can ignore him and will, but that's not the point, is it ?

Point is whether or not it should be considered normal to pollute a discussion and sharing board ?

Is that still too hard to reach your brain ? I believe you'll need examples. I'll give you one. Here you are looking at your favorit sport on TV. It's a classic setup. Adverts -> first half time -> Adverts -> second half time. That's it. Predictable. You know the rules, you accept them. You can do something else if you really want to avoid the adverts.

Now imagine if the setup would allow adverts to randomly pop-up during the match ? Cuting it, without announcement ? Yes, if you have the slightest start of brain between you two ears, you'll understand the metaphor. Adverts that cannot be avoided and that force you to read/look at are just plain annoying and rude. I don't want my match to be stoped by adverts and I don't want my ballbusting time interrupted by adverts. Simple, logical.

You have only two options. Either you consider yourself as a contributor and then should post only full video content, either you consider yourself as a seller and should follow the rules of that status. You cannot take the benefit of one to get those of the other. Or well, you can, but then again do not wonder why people will think you're an ass.

SOLUTIONS:

- Creating a subforum for producers, each having their thread. I do look at adverts from times to times, as everyone.
- Creating a thread directly in this subforum, that you can bump on the top each time you make a new video. That way people liking your videos will still be able to follow your work. Of course, your thread will still be a polution, but at least one that the reader can avoid.

[gopballbuster]

I know we've already voted that Jover stays, but I would feel redress in my duties as an all-around swell guy if I didn't cast my ballot of support.
To Pupace - shut up. Nobody cares what you think, so go take some Prozac and leave us the hell alone.
To Mr. Jover - thanks for your contributions :thumbup You're one of the good guys here, and we like you. In the opinion of the majority, the gentleman from California is welcome here, and we’re glad to have him.

[Dreihundert]

To the OP: I respect you for throwing out a thought out idea, but I don't think the forum members would approve of this, and the ignore button is always okay. I have no hard feelings toward you at all.

To the troll Pupuce:
<rant>
You're an idiot.

Misterjover produces so much content. Granted I don't always look at his images, the fact that he has contributed so much to this forum that I don't have time to look at them all is amazing enough. If more people produced as much content and posted it, the forum and the ball busting porn industry would be so much better off.

Ballbusting porn producers have to have passion for their work, otherwise they'd work in another porn industry.

It's simply not cool to jump out and demand someone leave the forum,/get banned, especially not someone who's been posting content here for almost 6 years.

People try to bring attention to their websites using other websites. I've recently started a blog, mainly for my own entertainment, but I take a lot of ideas from femaledom.com's forums, in hopes that someone would read my blog and find out about femaledom.com, and if I chose to advertise my blog in my signature(which I don't because there's not enough posts to make it worth reading), I'd hope someone found out about my blog from femaledom. This is the relationship femdom websites should have. It would ultimately:

1. Expose people to a potential turn-on
2. Increase revenue in the bb porn industry
3. Increase the amount of content for people to fap to ;)
4. Encourage a the growth of a little known subculture

Asking misterjover to stop doing good for everyone isn't right.

When I started getting into ballbusting on the internet for the first time, I started out with the Goddess Club and reading stories and content on Diana the Valkyrie's website. From Diana the Valkyrie's website I discovered ballbusting erotica because of the writings of Hardy, which encouraged me to look further into the subject. I then found the Eunuch archives, which I submitted a few stories to myself. From the Eunuch archives and Diana the Valkyrie, I learned the term "ballbusting" (I never used that word before 2006 or so, I just called it kicking balls)... At this time a google img search for ballbusting yielded little to no results. Now, I can get plenty from searching for it. A lot of the people responsible for posting that content are people like Vittoria and Misterjover. Anyway... From Eunuch archives I found Kramtoad, and from Kramtoad I found Femaledom.com... And female dom has introduced me to so many new subjects and websites, I shall not try and list.

So no... Sharing and Advertising content is not bad, especially when it's done by an overall nice guy who actually talks to you, instead of by some prick who just wants to sell his shit and forget you ever existed.

Misterjover does an amazing thing. He has an erotic idea, which he spends money to put on film, and then he tries to get reimbursed by selling them, and he advertises to sell. It's a win-win-win situation, for Misterjover, for making money and seeing his ideas come to life... For his customers, who can buy films from an honest producer, and for people here who see samples of his content(exceptional samples too, not just bullshit) for free!

But if I haven't convinced you, there is an ignore option on this board, which I believe the wise ty509 said takes two (2) clicks to achieve. From the topic alone it takes four. (4).
</rant>

<respect>
Misterjover,
I fully respect and welcome your presence here at femaledom, and I respect you as a person and as an artist. I know you're strong enough to ignore a few trolls who think they have a place demand you be banned. I, hopefully as a friend, support your presence here as long as you wish to stay.
</respect>

I hope that people on this forum take this example and mold it into their reasoning as to why we should respect people who produce content, whether they produce a whole lot or barely at all... Whether it be the best content in the world or not, when people put their heart into something and share it, it fuels the progression of the forum and the entire community of ballbusters by enticing people into the subject and encouraging them to pitch in.

[ty509]

Yes, because it is well known that people that are annoyed will AAALL POST. Wait, no.
- Actually, generally speaking, people who are annoyed are much more likely to complain than satisfied people are to speak out in support of something. And yeah, I have studied advertising and persuasion and yes, there is data to support this. Without going through all of my notes, I can tell you that the New Coke thing is the most prominent example of a major company listening to complaints, and then having to change everything back because (and the sample size here is ridiculous because it's "people who like Coke Classic") the previously happy people were now complaining due to the new formula, and people who are satisfied... don't tend to speak up just because they're satisfied.

Now imagine if the setup would allow adverts to randomly pop-up during the match ? Cuting it, without announcement ?
-You mean, like watching most primetime TV shows? Ever watch some shit like Lost and you're about to find out whether a main character lives or dies and... oh. I guess you aren't about to find out, because now you're watching a goddamn commercial. Yes, this irritates me when it happens... However, I usually just change the channel (continuing your metaphor, this would be the equivalent of using page-down), or I use TiVo or Hulu (the equivalent of hitting "ignore"). Now, because you're being specific with sporting events, I should probably note that commercials take place all the time in the middle of games. The NFL and NBA both have regulated TV time-outs (usually these coincide with time-outs or scoring breaks or fouls or injuries, but still. You see a guy get flagged for pass interference and BOOM commercial. Really, the only sport I know of where you get a full half, and then a break, and then another half, is soccer. I feel like this is the only sport you really considered... And frankly, soccer is FULL of advertising! Haven't you seen the billion-dollar billboards they have around the entire field? If you're watching Arsenal or some team with a similarly large budget, they have basically huge screens surrounding the pitch changing ads constantly. And every major soccer jersey has a sponsor's logo, for ADVERTISING purposes). The NHL sees timeouts when guys go to the bench for fouls too. Actually, now that I think of it, all of these, except soccer, have TOTALLY RANDOM ads in the form of the NHL Jack Daniels Shot of the Night, or the other random "highlights" that are thinly masqueraded ads. You get these in the NHL and NFL, and I'm pretty sure the MLB too. The GMC Drive of the Game, or something. Basically, what I'm saying is this: advertising, even in sport, is all over the place. And it's not really always predictable, but where it isn't, people usually just... learn to live with it. Like, I only feel bad for you, like your mood was severely breached if you were mid-wank on post #214 and post #215 was misterjover's post and it totally killed your wood. And even then... ignore button, or pagedown, or learn to keep your wood through difficult times (I'd say "hard" times, but I guess that wouldn't really apply).

You have only two options.
-No, you don't. Why do you only have two options? Because some anonymous dude on the internet said so? And, if you are to follow the rules of salesmen (or salespeople, but I don't think that this forum is exactly a haven of gender-equality proponents), don't you have to consider that Sharon, who sets the rules for this forum, is apparently happy with this exchange? It seems like they have a mutual understanding here. What I'm saying here is, even if one DID only have two options (which they don't!), it seems like misterjover is still following the rules. Just, you have to understand that YOU aren't the one who makes them.

Also, generally speaking, name-calling doesn't tend to convince people that you are correct. I'm just sayin'.

[moosh]

Of course we can ignore him and will

......

Adverts that cannot be avoided and that force you to read/look at are just plain annoying and rude. I don't want my match to be stoped by adverts and I don't want my ballbusting time interrupted by adverts. Simple, logical.


I think you've canceled yourself out with these two contradictory statements.

"yes, I could ignore the posts"
"I don't want my bb interrupted by adverts which I can't ignore"

doesn't sound very "logical" to me ;)

Anyway, the adverts are usually contain photos from the shoot, so are really not much different than someone else just posting a pic. The adverts contain ballbusting..... It's not like he's advertising McDonalds.

You don't need to read every post, anyway.

I'm sure you know you're wrong though, and are just trolling for whatever reason.

[Dreihundert]

..... It's not like he's advertising McDonalds....

Good point. A porn image, unlike a photo of a hamburger, is useful as an image.

What misterjover is doing isn't like giving you pictures of a hamburger demanding you eat them, but more like giving you a free single burger in hopes that you enjoy it and might buy a supersized angus burger ;).

Speaking of mcdonald's, here's an interesting idea... By posting dots where every McDonalds is, one can draw a picture of the united states (jesus, there's a lot of mcdonalds here lol!

http://subtractison.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/mcdonalds-map-of-america.jpg

[megahero]

it isnt like all those people posting thumbnails from those clip for sale sites and then asking you to come buy them.

at the very least, his "advertising" pretty much always consists of free pictures or vids. hell, half the people i see posting have links to other websites in there sigs and things of that nature, why is no one complaining about that?

and as for not wanting to see naked women busting balls...if it isnt your thing, just move on to the next. it really isnt that hard to do.

personally im not a fan of pussy envy or the subculture's seeming fixation on Avril Lavigne, but you dont see me running off trying to get people banned for posting the stuff...

[Pupuce]

[quote=moosh;74612]I think you've canceled yourself out with these two contradictory statements.

"yes, I could ignore the posts"
"I don't want my bb interrupted by adverts which I can't ignore"

doesn't sound very "logical" to me ;)

I'm quoting it because it is, opposed to what I'm accused of by ignorant people, a pure troll. Indeed, this is a rethorical remark; you're trying to play on word. Too bad you're bad at it.

Let's see how it works; adverts on TVs will pop-up at said times. Adverts on street will pop-up on side of the street. Adverts will get played before the movie in cinemas. Do you notice a pattern ? Good. Good boy. Now you can notice how this pattern does not match with the one we're talking here. Because what ignoring one user won't ignore every other person that'll come advertising.

Ignoring A won't prevent from getting interrupted in my BB surfing by B, C, D to Z. Thus, ignoring A is not a solution to counter unexpected spam. I've just ouwited you because you're just a dumb boot licker. Please, do not try me again.


Anyway, the adverts are usually contain photos from the shoot, so are really not much different than someone else just posting a pic. The adverts contain ballbusting..... It's not like he's advertising McDonalds.

You don't need to read every post, anyway.

I'm sure you know you're wrong though, and are just trolling for whatever reason.

Sooo .. I guess following your logic, trailers for movies aren't advertising because you still get to see some bits of the movie. I beg you to excuse me if this argument does not make much sens to me. Adverts are adverts.

Now I know I'm being half hypocrit, but certainly not wrong. I'm plain right and proved it. I'm half hypocrit because I wouldn't care if I liked what that guy would advert. I'll give you that, and I'm honest enough to me to admit it. But that concerns only my motivations, not my logic.



To the troll Pupuce:
<rant>
You're an idiot.

Misterjover produces so much content. Granted I don't always look at his images, the fact that he has contributed so much to this forum that I don't have time to look at them all is amazing enough.

Hello ignorant man. You cannot qualify someone as "troll" because you disagree with him/her. It will only prove you as being a very primitive mind. You need to use arguments to prove someone being a troll.

Sidenote: you are retarded. Proof: you think you should thank a man for making money out of his passion. You have to learn the difference between interested and non-interested actions. Strings attached to a gift negate the very notion of a "gift". Trailers posted here to get more customers, more money, aren't out of kindness. They are out of greedyness.

I'm not actually saying it isn't normal, that's pretty to do what you love. But raising him as a hero is being one hundred fucking percent retarded. He's the one lucky people are paying for his movies. He's the one that should be thankful. Certainly not us, or the one buying the video.

EDIT:


What misterjover is doing isn't like giving you pictures of a hamburger demanding you eat them, but more like giving you a free single burger in hopes that you enjoy it and might buy a supersized angus burger

Actually, no. He is the guy that comes at your restaurant table to shove a hamburger that you didn't chose, and might therefore hate, down your throat. You guys are the other restaurant customers telling that this is a great initiative because you liked the hamburger. And you're trying to tell the guy that actually thought "Maybe I don't like being ******" that he should shut the fuck up.

If you want to use metaphores, get them straight.

[smackMyNuts]

Actually, no. He is the guy that comes at your restaurant table to shove a hamburger that you didn't chose, and might therefore hate, down your throat. You guys are the other restaurant customers telling that this is a great initiative because you liked the hamburger. And you're trying to tell the guy that actually thought "Maybe I don't like being ******" that he should shut the fuck up.

If you want to use metaphores, get them straight.

He's not ******* anything. 1) He starts his own threads for these things and doesn't stick them in other threads so you could just not read the threads he starts. 2) You could put him on ignore and never see his posts again.

But clearly if you just didn't want to see his posts, then you'd just put him on ignore. What you want is the rest of us to agree with you. That's why you keep arguing. You want us to say you're right. That's why you've spent hours arguing rather than the seconds it would take to put him on ignore. Well, sorry, but we don't agree. Learn to live with it.

With that, I'm done talking about it.

Smack

[moosh]

Let's see how it works; adverts on TVs will pop-up at said times. Adverts on street will pop-up on side of the street. Adverts will get played before the movie in cinemas. Do you notice a pattern ? Good. Good boy. Now you can notice how this pattern does not match with the one we're talking here.

You are correct that they are not the same. The adverts of Jover are relevant to the board, and are easy to never be seen again; unlike the ones on TV, streets and cinema which you deem acceptable. Even if you chose not to put him on ignore, the adverts can easily just be scrolled past, unlike cinema adverts which you need to sit through to see the film.


Because what ignoring one user won't ignore every other person that'll come advertising.

Ignoring A won't prevent from getting interrupted in my BB surfing by B, C, D to Z. Thus, ignoring A is not a solution to counter unexpected spam. I've just ouwited you because you're just a dumb boot licker. Please, do not try me again.

You have not outwitted anyone because you have been complaining about MisterJover, and the statements that I quoted from you showed that by your own criteria, his posts are fine because you can (and apparently will) ignore them. I certainly don't think we get enough advert style posts for you to think that there are that many different people that you would need to ignore. Let's also remember that while whole movies are posted here without permission, they aren't meant to be. It seems like you want this to just be another site with tons of copyright material in every thread. There are better choices than here, if that's the case.


Sooo .. I guess following your logic, trailers for movies aren't advertising because you still get to see some bits of the movie. I beg you to excuse me if this argument does not make much sens to me. Adverts are adverts.

I didn't say they're not adverts, just that it's still BB so they're not "interrupting" your BB browsing.

You watch a movie to see the whole movie and enjoy the story (in general). If you like just looking at pictures of BB then an advert which contains multiple pictures of BB (or often a link to free a free gallery) is just as valid as a normal picture of BB. A trailer is clearly not the same as a whole movie, but if there were a thread on another forum for people who enjoying looking at pictures of Batman, then an advert for The Dark Knight which was mostly just a big picture of Batman would surely be a an acceptable contribution.

I would suggest that if you dislike his posts then the reason is, as others have suggested, that you just don't like the material and the fact that he's advertising his site has little to do with it.


Actually, no. He is the guy that comes at your restaurant table to shove a hamburger that you didn't chose, and might therefore hate, down your throat. You guys are the other restaurant customers telling that this is a great initiative because you liked the hamburger. And you're trying to tell the guy that actually thought "Maybe I don't like being ******" that he should shut the fuck up.

If you want to use metaphores, get them straight.

No, he doesn't force anything on people anymore than other people posting pictures in the pics thread, grabbing thread etc. We do not accuse everyone who posts something of "*******" that picture or video on us. If you would like to go through life never seeing any image that does not fit your specific tastes, then I suggest you sew your eyelids together.

Lots of threads are packed with pictures, and it seems silly to say that the ones MisterJover posts are being ****** on you, while the ones posted by others are not.

Unless he's got you strapped to a chair with your eyes held open like Alex in A Clockwork Orange, I don't think you can accuse him of that.

[egghead]

I for one like ballbusting pornstars, jesus if you dont like it, then dont read it or just ignore the posts :wooow

[Teardrop]

I tend to think we are all part of the same community, and trying to banish one particular member to his own separate area seems a little mean-spirited to me.

Personally, I enjoy seeing Eric's work. I've seen him do some things in his videos that I don't recall anyone else ever attempting in the history of BB. To me, that sort of original thinking is one of the most impressive things a person can do, in whatever walk of life that person operates in.

[Pupuce]

He's not ******* anything. 1) He starts his own threads for these things and doesn't stick them in other threads so you could just not read the threads he starts. 2) You could put him on ignore and never see his posts again.

Actually, no. He posts his adverts in the middle on threads that aren't dedicated to his job. He's therefore ******* the reader.


But clearly if you just didn't want to see his posts, then you'd just put him on ignore. What you want is the rest of us to agree with you. That's why you keep arguing. You want us to say you're right. That's why you've spent hours arguing rather than the seconds it would take to put him on ignore. Well, sorry, but we don't agree. Learn to live with it.

Using hyperbole won't help you. I hardly spent few minutes replying here, and yes it is worth fighting something I find really annoying. And yes, I am defending my opinion. It seems that should be considered by some very narrow-minded people as something bad.


You are correct that they are not the same. The adverts of Jover are relevant to the board, and are easy to never be seen again; unlike the ones on TV, streets and cinema which you deem acceptable. Even if you chose not to put him on ignore, the adverts can easily just be scrolled past, unlike cinema adverts which you need to sit through to see the film.

Are you retarded on purpose ? Or do you think reusing arguments I've already shut down will have an effect ? Ignoring is not an answer since first, you'll still have to read the post to realise it's an advert and then have to ignore the account, second it won't ignore further advertising posters.

You're compairing things as if that guy was indeed recognized as being an advertiser and not a kind and generous contributor that we should by the way worship. That's a different stance that I appreciate. I can live with adverts if they are treated as adverts. I'm on few forums that have a bot publishing an advert on every page. This is predictable; as would be a subforum, a dedicated thread, etc.

I believe every one of you is able to understand that adverts have to follow some rules not to be considered as "spam" or harassment. That guy is not following any. I never said he should be banned, neither did the OP. We have since the beginning asked for some sort of organisation of this trend of wild advertising.

If the adverts are organised, people that want to avoid them can organise themselves to do so. Simple to understand, I'm very sure of that.



I didn't say they're not adverts, just that it's still BB so they're not "interrupting" your BB browsing.

You watch a movie to see the whole movie and enjoy the story (in general). If you like just looking at pictures of BB then an advert which contains multiple pictures of BB (or often a link to free a free gallery) is just as valid as a normal picture of BB. A trailer is clearly not the same as a whole movie, but if there were a thread on another forum for people who enjoying looking at pictures of Batman, then an advert for The Dark Knight which was mostly just a big picture of Batman would surely be a an acceptable contribution.

I'll just comment that last sentence and will say that you probably have a (very) poor internet culture to think so. 98% of the communities do not accept being used for advertising.

[quoteI would suggest that if you dislike his posts then the reason is, as others have suggested, that you just don't like the material and the fact that he's advertising his site has little to do with it.[/quote]

It's not other people that suggested it, it's me. I have no problem with admiting I can stand up agaisnt this because I don't like it. But that is nothing else than an had hominem. Motivations can't affect arguments. Maybe you should read a bit more on how to argue.

[moosh]

I never said he should be banned, neither did the OP.

yes you did:

Agreed. Or simplier: ban that guy. Advertising on another site for your own site is just plain rude.


Maybe you should read a bit more on how to argue.

Maybe I'll take advice on "how to argue" from someone who hasn't contradicted themselves at least twice in a single thread. I'm pretty sure you now safely qualify for the troll title as well, congratulations.

:bananawin

[Alec Anaconda]

Hold on!

I might have missed a sentence or two in this insane cacophony, but can it be that only TommyTheCoolCat and me have bothered to thank Misterjover for giving away an excellent video?

Please message me Misterjover, for a complimentary copy of any one of my ebooks.

Alec Anaconda

[ThomHow]

Dear all,

Personally I'm not a fan of Ballbusting Pornstars, but I don't think they should have their own sub-forum. Fetishes can be amazingly specific and I tend to doubt that there are many ballbusting sites which create material loved by everyone, or many Femaldedom visitors who love every picture or link which is posted. I suggest it's easier just to accept that some posts will not be appreciated by some users and leave it at that.

Thom

[Dreihundert]

Hold on!

I might have missed a sentence or two in this insane cacophony, but can it be that only TommyTheCoolCat and me have bothered to thank Misterjover for giving away an excellent video?

Please message me Misterjover, for a complimentary copy of any one of my ebooks.

Alec Anaconda

To be honest, I didn't bother to download it because I didn't think it was right he be pressured into giving it away, and I didn't thank him either ;). I did download it just now and I am very impressed with his work.

So, he has my gratitude.

[Pupuce]

yes you did:




Maybe I'll take advice on "how to argue" from someone who hasn't contradicted themselves at least twice in a single thread. I'm pretty sure you now safely qualify for the troll title as well, congratulations.

:bananawin

I surely over reacted on my first post and forgot about it afterward. So ? If you're able to use that to prove something, you are truely a master.

Otherwise, you're exactly what you wish me to be: a troll. Because if you can't prove that, it's just another had hominem, the number one weapon of the troll.

I'm sorry I'm better than you at this game.

[blkpatent]

To the OP: I respect you for throwing out a thought out idea, but I don't think the forum members would approve of this, and the ignore button is always okay. I have no hard feelings toward you at all.

To the troll Pupuce:
<rant>
You're an idiot.

Misterjover produces so much content. Granted I don't always look at his images, the fact that he has contributed so much to this forum that I don't have time to look at them all is amazing enough. If more people produced as much content and posted it, the forum and the ball busting porn industry would be so much better off.

Ballbusting porn producers have to have passion for their work, otherwise they'd work in another porn industry.

It's simply not cool to jump out and demand someone leave the forum,/get banned, especially not someone who's been posting content here for almost 6 years.

People try to bring attention to their websites using other websites. I've recently started a blog, mainly for my own entertainment, but I take a lot of ideas from femaledom.com's forums, in hopes that someone would read my blog and find out about femaledom.com, and if I chose to advertise my blog in my signature(which I don't because there's not enough posts to make it worth reading), I'd hope someone found out about my blog from femaledom. This is the relationship femdom websites should have. It would ultimately:

1. Expose people to a potential turn-on
2. Increase revenue in the bb porn industry
3. Increase the amount of content for people to fap to ;)
4. Encourage a the growth of a little known subculture

Asking misterjover to stop doing good for everyone isn't right.

When I started getting into ballbusting on the internet for the first time, I started out with the Goddess Club and reading stories and content on Diana the Valkyrie's website. From Diana the Valkyrie's website I discovered ballbusting erotica because of the writings of Hardy, which encouraged me to look further into the subject. I then found the Eunuch archives, which I submitted a few stories to myself. From the Eunuch archives and Diana the Valkyrie, I learned the term "ballbusting" (I never used that word before 2006 or so, I just called it kicking balls)... At this time a google img search for ballbusting yielded little to no results. Now, I can get plenty from searching for it. A lot of the people responsible for posting that content are people like Vittoria and Misterjover. Anyway... From Eunuch archives I found Kramtoad, and from Kramtoad I found Femaledom.com... And female dom has introduced me to so many new subjects and websites, I shall not try and list.

So no... Sharing and Advertising content is not bad, especially when it's done by an overall nice guy who actually talks to you, instead of by some prick who just wants to sell his shit and forget you ever existed.

Misterjover does an amazing thing. He has an erotic idea, which he spends money to put on film, and then he tries to get reimbursed by selling them, and he advertises to sell. It's a win-win-win situation, for Misterjover, for making money and seeing his ideas come to life... For his customers, who can buy films from an honest producer, and for people here who see samples of his content(exceptional samples too, not just bullshit) for free!

But if I haven't convinced you, there is an ignore option on this board, which I believe the wise ty509 said takes two (2) clicks to achieve. From the topic alone it takes four. (4).
</rant>

<respect>
Misterjover,
I fully respect and welcome your presence here at femaledom, and I respect you as a person and as an artist. I know you're strong enough to ignore a few trolls who think they have a place demand you be banned. I, hopefully as a friend, support your presence here as long as you wish to stay.
</respect>

I hope that people on this forum take this example and mold it into their reasoning as to why we should respect people who produce content, whether they produce a whole lot or barely at all... Whether it be the best content in the world or not, when people put their heart into something and share it, it fuels the progression of the forum and the entire community of ballbusters by enticing people into the subject and encouraging them to pitch in.
This seems to be one of the only sensible posts I've seen, thanks. I was unaware of the ignore feature, that solves this issue for me and thanks for telling me about it WITHOUT the pointless comments.

[blkpatent]

I tend to think we are all part of the same community, and trying to banish one particular member to his own separate area seems a little mean-spirited to me.

Personally, I enjoy seeing Eric's work. I've seen him do some things in his videos that I don't recall anyone else ever attempting in the history of BB. To me, that sort of original thinking is one of the most impressive things a person can do, in whatever walk of life that person operates in.
This was not meant to be mean at all, it was just a suggestion of which was not supported.

[blkpatent]

You don't want porn mixed with ballbusting? What are you talking about? You have a picture of a naked man being kicked in the balls as your profile picture. Pornography is that which is meant to arouse. You're spouting nonsense.

If you only find CFNM ballbusting sexy then fine, that's your fetish. Don't expect the rest of us to be the same. If you don't like mister jover's posts, then put him on ignore.
So? Ballbusting to me is about a woman kicking balls, he SHOULD be naked. I mean porn in the regular sense of the word and I think you know that but are just being rude for no reason. I never said I expect the rest of you to like what I like, I never said he should be banned, I never said he shouldn't be allowed to post his content, you obviously can't read. I asked for a very specific request and several of you are reading into what I said and not READING and comprehending what I said.

[doople44]

Maybe I'm really weird, but while BB is obviously something sexual for me (as it is, presumably, for everyone here), I really don't want it mixed up with sex itself. I can honestly say that while I enjoy intercourse with my (naked) girlfriend, the sight of sex videos leaves me cold; in fact, they often seem tacky and disgusting; e.g., I don't want to see a man's jism in a video and I don't want to see a woman who is obviously just working in the sex industry going through the motions of kicking balls in the same way they would stick a cock in their ear if they were told to (such women just arouse pity). It's true that anything that arouses is technically porn, but in most people's minds the word conjures up the kind of crude sex video that is clearly just part of an industry.

I am prepared to tolerate Mr Jover's pics and videos but feel they should have their own thread, as close-ups of erect penises are a real turn off. This should be the case, incidentally, for all commercial sites posting here.

[smackMyNuts]

So? Ballbusting to me is about a woman kicking balls, he SHOULD be naked. I mean porn in the regular sense of the word and I think you know that but are just being rude for no reason. I never said I expect the rest of you to like what I like, I never said he should be banned, I never said he shouldn't be allowed to post his content, you obviously can't read. I asked for a very specific request and several of you are reading into what I said and not READING and comprehending what I said.

I'm not sure what "regular" use of the word "porn" you're talking about. Porn is material made solely to arouse people. That's the only definition. If you're trying to say something like "I don't want to see women who appear in mainstream pornographic movies in ball busting movies" or "I don't want there to be sex in ball busting movies" or "I don't want naked women in ball busting movies" or something else like that, then you need to say it. When you just make up your own definitions and hope that the rest of us understand them, you're often going to fail. So, no, I don't know what you mean when you say that you don't want porn in your ball busting movies. To me that makes as much sense as saying that you don't want video in your ball busting movies. I can understand that you probably have some idea of what "porn" means that isn't that same as the meaning that the rest of the world uses, but I don't know what that meaning is. I could make some guesses, as I have done above, but that doesn't mean that you're making sense.

I didn't accuse you of saying that he should be banned. I just think it's silly that you think that his stuff should be segregated into its own private area just because it's not the same as your fetish. If we start dividing things up by everyone's fetish, we'll wind up each having our own sub-forum.

But more to the point, you use words like "SHOULD" as if you think that there's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it rather than just a way that you like and a way that you dislike. Sorry dude. It's not a right/wrong thing. It's just about what you like or don't. Don't expect the rest of us to draw the same lines you do.

I don't think that women with small breasts are sexy. I don't think that videos where the women don't show off their skin or figure are sexy. I don't think that ********** is sexy. But I don't go around suggesting that these get their own sub-forums because the end result would be ridiculous. Plus, I think that BB videos ought to have sex in them because I think that ball busting is sexy. It turns me on, so why shouldn't the people in the video get turned on and have sex too? If you don't like it, that's fine. But that's your preference, not necessarily anyone else's.

Also, sorry for assuming that you were smart and knowledgeable enough to figure out how to ignore someone without needing it explained. I guess I presupposed that you had used a web forum before. Of course, I should have presumed that you didn't know much about this forum, since if you did understand how things work here then you wouldn't have been asking the question here to begin with. None of us can make a sub-forum, and this isn't a democracy. Only Sharon has any power and she hasn't responded to a post in here in years. If you want it done, there's no point posting here: send her a message. She probably won't do it, but you can ask.

Smack

[Alec Anaconda]

Perhaps we need a new thread on the current meaning of the word pornography.

To me, use of the word pornography implies a negative value judgement.

It invokes images of rich Victorian “gentleman” deciding to conceal erotic work from women and the poor, to keep it for themselves.

Alec Anaconda

[Teardrop]

Perhaps we need a new thread on the current meaning of the word pornography.

To me, use of the word pornography implies a negative value judgement.
I have the complete opposite connotation of the word "pornography" than you do. To me, pornography is about men and women enjoying and celebrating their own sexuality. What could be better than that?

[Alec Anaconda]

These is nothing wrong with sex; few things are more soul-destroying than its absence.

These is nothing amiss when men and women luxuriate in their sexuality.

Indeed, it’s great when one or more adults get it on!

And the portrayal of sex, in what ever medium, is both natural and entertaining.
I just prefer to call it erotic art.

I just find the word pornography, for me, carries a baggage of “wrong, dirty and illegal”.

However, your view certainly is not wrong and I welcome it.

[Dreihundert]

These is nothing wrong with sex; few things are more soul-destroying than its absence.

These is nothing amiss when men and women luxuriate in their sexuality.

Indeed, it’s great when one or more adults get it on!

And the portrayal of sex, in what ever medium, is both natural and entertaining.
I just prefer to call it erotic art.

I just find the word pornography, for me, carries a baggage of “wrong, dirty and illegal”.

However, your view certainly is not wrong and I welcome it.

I assure you it does not carry such connotations for me, and that whenever I use it, I do not mean it in any derogatory way.

I do understand your viewpoint and agree.

Perhaps, erotica is a better statement?

[blkpatent]

Maybe I'm really weird, but while BB is obviously something sexual for me (as it is, presumably, for everyone here), I really don't want it mixed up with sex itself. I can honestly say that while I enjoy intercourse with my (naked) girlfriend, the sight of sex videos leaves me cold; in fact, they often seem tacky and disgusting; e.g., I don't want to see a man's jism in a video and I don't want to see a woman who is obviously just working in the sex industry going through the motions of kicking balls in the same way they would stick a cock in their ear if they were told to (such women just arouse pity). It's true that anything that arouses is technically porn, but in most people's minds the word conjures up the kind of crude sex video that is clearly just part of an industry.

I am prepared to tolerate Mr Jover's pics and videos but feel they should have their own thread, as close-ups of erect penises are a real turn off. This should be the case, incidentally, for all commercial sites posting here.
Exactly. They aren't true ballbusters, they are just porn stars doing ballbusting for the sake of doing it. They usually have no idea what they are doing and they usually are in little to no clothing which is not what I want in ballbusting. In my opinion I want the two worlds separate. Sex and BB are as different as lobster and sweet potato pie. Both are good but I don't want them at the same time on the same plate mixed together.

[misterjover]

They aren't true ballbusters, they are just porn stars doing ballbusting for the sake of doing it.



That's a generalization, which is not true. Some of them are professional dommes such as Asa Akira, Aiden Starr and Amber Rayne.

They work in dungeons, and you will see them in other femdom movies in other fetish websites.

Now it's very true that some of the girls that I shoot are also "subs" for pay, but that's how it is in the industry. Girls have to make a living. However, many of the girls that I pick are pretty good ballbusters... and I mean VERY hard ballbusting and biting.

So hard that I don't trust them to perform with any other guys but myself.

You are entitled to your preferences and opinions, and I respect that.


:)