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    good point well made, but interesting thoughts


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    Nah, those posts are a load of bullshit.

    Here are a few reasons why:
    1. It assumes Kav is guilty just because someone said he is, but provided no proof.
    2. It assumes men always get off from these cases even though there are a ton of men in jail because of it.
    3. It does not take into account several recent cases here in the states where men have been let go when it was found out women were lying (reason why hard evidence is so important)
    4. It assumes most women go through this and don’t tell anyone
    5. Keep politics out of Fetish Play

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    I feel weird when kink mix up with important political questions, metaphors or anything, but here the analogy is well thought to speak of the majority of guys raised in a mildly conservative environment and that struggle existencially between teaming with the oppressed and listening the voices inside amplified by the medias that tell them their balls are at stake, that's there's an essence of things and a sane order SJWs want to destroy.

    Kinda disapointed again by the comment under, like when someone shared the caricature of Marsault. The ununderstanding of social and political issues from people that themselves are threatened by the right is so sad. While people brag femdom, fetish or SM is apolitical; that's feminists that actively defend sex worker's rights and possibility to survive out of stigma so you jerk off, that share sexual education, disindoctrinate women out of submission and men out of domination in society so that we're free in bed and intimate life.
    That's all those lefties that never stop saying consent is the key to everything as well as tabooless communication, that safewords themselves can have flaws that must be acknowledged.
    That's thanks to what these lefties of all kind created that the gentle femdom and and role-reversal communities could pop on tumblr and now Reddit where ACTUAL WOMEN show up unlike here become they aren't expected to wear layers of leathers for the male gaze and perform cruel bitches all the time, they can just be themselves as sweet dommes and thanks to this, many sub men realized they didn't just want degradation and humiliation but care, acknowledgement and headpats (instead of giving everything to a dumb findomme with an alternative account as incel and mgtow and trying to suicide).

    And without all this that touches my feelings personnally, claiming fetish is apolitical is just plain ignorance of the ties between sexual deviance acknowledgement then democratization; and far-left, feminist, atheist, queer militantism as well as scientific knowledge evolution (passing from repressives mythes from a norm and dogma in the XIXth century, to progressive knowledge in the XXth with the development of serious empiric and positivist research in psychology in the past century). Same as it's ignorance of the core values of the right in term of gender roles, male submission, order of things etc...

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    I think the way we envision female domination is much different than how most women do. Most feminists interested in having men as physical, sex, slaves. Rather, they want to psychologically dominate men in such a way that women marginally gain economic, social, or political power.

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    The huge majority of feminists are submissive, only a significant percentage more than the average women will be switches and dominant, knowing dominant only women are rather almost not existing in current society.

    And only an even less socially existing minority are into psychological manipulation of men to arrive to their political ends (which is different than individual manipulation of people to achieve personal goals, what many men and women do sadly). That's not "domination" at first, then it's linked to a diagnosable mental trouble and likely trauma.

    In your case I don't think it's intended, but it's conspiracy-like way of thinking typical of the right that doesn't master how a society functions at systemic and structural scale, even if you don't go as straight as "hurr durr, women have all the power and plot in towers to enslave men", your base reasoning is similar, as if manipulation and secret goals had to be in the equation of people reclaiming rights, and the implicit idea rights are a finite essence in the air and women gaining some can only be done at men's expense.
    If you conceive rights as something than can always be claimed without dualities, celestial/natural/divine balances, order of things etc... there's no need for mischievous plots in the act to reclaim them, no need to fear everything and divide with those sharing your own interest in case they stole them in the end, you just stand together and reclaim them for yourself and others simultaneously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HsspodeBusted View Post
    Nah, those posts are a load of bullshit.

    Here are a few reasons why:
    1. It assumes Kav is guilty just because someone said he is, but provided no proof.
    2. It assumes men always get off from these cases even though there are a ton of men in jail because of it.
    3. It does not take into account several recent cases here in the states where men have been let go when it was found out women were lying (reason why hard evidence is so important)
    4. It assumes most women go through this and don’t tell anyone
    5. Keep politics out of Fetish Play
    THANK YOU. Especially that last point.

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