Is it illegal to own bb material?

[Snakelinux]

The spanner case (more commonly known as operation spanner) was in the United Kingdom. It has been illegal to make videos with "violent" (or "angry") sex there for a while now. It is old news. However, there has never been a ruling (to my knowledge) about downloading or obtaining such material. It is like the illegal downloading of music. It is the uploaders and not the downloaders the law goes after. If you want to put bb material on a website (or sell it) and you live in the UK you should think again. Otherwise you are fine.

A lot of people here keep talking about the extremeness of the images and blah, blah, blah. Such arbitrary information means very little. Do not worry about the exact category ballbusting falls under. Most judges will probably see this as violent or angry sex. Therefore, if you are ever see the inside of a courtroom you are trouble. Think about it from their perspective. They see someone hitting someone else. What more needs to be said? The legal terminology is irrelevant. Judges do not use it when making their decisions, which has actually been a compliant about the legal system in general for a long time now.

P.S. It is highly unlikely that a jury will convict you. The spanner case was made up of homosexuals. No offense to homosexuals but people relate to people better who are similar to themselves. If they had been heterosexuals they probably would not have gone to prison. Assuming you do not have anything that would scare a jury (like ********** scenes) you will probably just receive a fine. Right now it seems that the UK has cooled off in looking in its search for people who are committing that crime. Unfortunately, one never knows which way the wind will blow.

[moosh]

Unfortunately, this was proven not to be so, by the “Spanner” case.
Unless this has been superseded by a more recent judgement, consent does not mitigate actual bodily injury.

That was what I understood to be true from reading the law I linked.

Upon closer reading though, it does say that if:

"the harm is of such a nature that the person cannot, in law, consent to it being inflicted on himself or herself"

then it's not consensual, so I guess you still can't legally consent to some things, even if you literally do consent to them.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Also, it seems consent is a just listed as a defence there for owning the porn if you're in it, not necessarily for engaging in the act (not going to scrawl through more legal crap to check that one, but I'd assume the same "consent" stuff applies).

[johnny_cockNballs]

I have set many times before that bdsm / s&m is illegal in the UK, yet it goes on openly unchallenged. Many doms earn a living from practicing illegal activities as you cannot consent to actual bodily harm etc on your self.
Similarly I am aware that producing ballbusting material is technically illegal for the above reason, but beleive and hope that yes the Police do indeed have better things to do. There are far more violent websites out there and hopefully the authorities will invest their valuable time into those.

Is it really strict in UK? I hear a lot of problems for AV content of UK internet user. That surprise me! Here Japan doesn't have that restriction, but only annoying digital mosaic of genitals.

Many years ago, together with a friend, we had a site Tamahimeden. We had BB with out digital wipe (full nude), and didn't have any trouble from Japan law. That time we are amature, so maybe they don't see us. We close site in 2003. But pro company like Moody, wanz, Dandy, Dogma will have trouble if show full nude. But a lot of fetish content doesn't mean anything here, content not illegal here (only if too young). It is more about full nude or digital mosaic. So there is always strange stuff in videos here.

I like it, strange pervert things.

[mork]

In theory, that just means they have better things to do! The law as it stands classes BB movies and pictures as being illegal - I can't remember the exact wording but something like suggesting damage to the genitals is the clause it would come under.

Just think, those of us who like our nuts being kicked and who just happen to have a recording of the event or of other people having their nuts hit consensually are just as evil as those who create child porn....

The thing you need to be worrying about, Jedi, is whether you will become the test-case for this particular area of the law. So far it's not been challenged in court but it could happen and all you need is a judge who *isn't* in to S&M and it could all go wrong...

All that said, I think that until someone does get taken to court that we can probably carry on as before but just keep our eyes open and hope it's not us that become the test case...

there are judges who are NOT into s&m?..! you are american and not british then, i take it!!

[helios]

Is it really strict in UK? I hear a lot of problems for AV content of UK internet user. That surprise me! Here Japan doesn't have that restriction, but only annoying digital mosaic of genitals.

Many years ago, together with a friend, we had a site Tamahimeden. We had BB with out digital wipe (full nude), and didn't have any trouble from Japan law. That time we are amature, so maybe they don't see us. We close site in 2003. But pro company like Moody, wanz, Dandy, Dogma will have trouble if show full nude. But a lot of fetish content doesn't mean anything here, content not illegal here (only if too young). It is more about full nude or digital mosaic. So there is always strange stuff in videos here.

I like it, strange pervert things.

Wow Johnny cockNballs!

I had no idea you were behind Tamahimeden - I don't think anyone here did.

You are a ballbusting legend!

Your site was one of the first - probably THE first - great ballbusting site. Beautiful girls, great angles and great poses. I really feel that you set the standard, and actually very few sites have lived up to it since.

Thank you so much!

Helios

[teapot42]

there are judges who are NOT into s&m?..! you are american and not british then, i take it!!

Sir, I take that as grossly offensive and honour must be satisfied! I challenge you to a ball-busting duel! Choose your weapon and spread those legs! (I go for the steel toe caps myself...)

(FWIW that was mostly sarcastic but the point is that you can't expect a judge to see your side of things or have the same moral viewpoint as you)