risks and safety

[gorlich]

hi !
i would like to open a discussion on risks of ballbusting and cbt... i really love this kind of fetish but am also aware of it... i wanna have kids once :-) .. does anyone know about any study about safety in ballbusting, about the risks (on the internet would be best) and how to avoid permanent or temporary damages? thanks, michael, prague

[SadisticSara]

Good topic!

Lesson: Rule number one says that ballbusting should never be so severe as to cause any permanent damage!

How to avoid damage? Hey, it's common sense (at least to me). But you're right -- it's better to think about it beforehand rather than cry about it after it's too late!

I hope more knowledgeable and experienced users will give us some pointers, guidelines or advice here. I'm not really an "expert" on that -- just a semi-experienced practitioner.

I'm not aware of any online studies on it. Maybe somebody reading this does?

Actually, if testicles are physically damaged by accidents, BALLBUSTING, torture, etc., they do become less sensitive.
If the damage is severe enough, or even caused by repetitive "overly-enthusiastic" ballbusting, they become damaged.

They also diminish in size if that happens.

If yours (the male readers of this) are starting to get noticably smaller, you've been overdoing it and should lay off getting them busted for a few months to let them recover.

Otherwise, they won't recover and may get damaged further.
That would result not only in having smaller testicles, but also in a diminished libido (lower sex drive) due to lower levels of testosterone being produced.

If THAT happens, you should see a medical doctor to have your testosterone level tested.
If necessary, you would then be prescribed supplemental testosterone indefinitely. That would normalize your sex drive, but your testicles would remain small.

NOTE: Even testosterone injections will NOT get your testicles to produce spermatazoa if they have been damaged excessively. That means sterility. No having kids, ever.
So use a bit of sense, OK guys?

I'm NOT a medical doctor but I've studied medicine and was a licenced veterinary assistant in Mexico (where I was born).
- As a side note, just in case you're interested, I'm experienced in administering testosterone injections to "tired" studs and also well experienced in several techniques of ********** (of livestock, in Mexico).

Hope to hear from others about this important topic.

- Sara.

[NHUSA]

Yeah...no knives or any sharp objects that can cut be involved. That would just suck.

Just know your limits.

[Lew27]

Sara,do you know how long it is safe to leave one of those thick rubber bands around the testicles?About 10 years ago in my late teens,I used to sometimes wrap one around the base of my scrotum 2 or 3 times.It hurt a lot the first 15 minutes or so,like being hit real hard in the balls,but it didn't hurt much after 30 minutes or so.I always took it off within an hour because I was afraid of doing permanent damage and I would start to break out in to a cold sweat.I know you have some medical training with elastrators.Do you think I did any permanent damage by doing this?I did it quite often for about 2 years.What do you think?

[Trouble]

I just remembered one, which I think I have heard Sadistic Sara mention before; it bears repeating.

If your bb partner grabs your testicles and then squeezes or strikes them, fine, have fun. Do not allow your friend to twist them excessively. The scrotum contains a tangled mess of tubes and cords; twisting the nutsack is for self defense, not for fun. In particular, a severe twist followed by a heavy blow to the twisted pair can risk injuring the tubes and cords; if I could remember the names of all that stuff that could go wrong, I would relate some, but the possibility of breaking the vas deferens comes to mind. It is much easier to damage the connective tubes and stuff than to damage the testicles, themselves; to remain a safe and healthy ballbusting sicko, keep the twisting minimal.

Some twisting, of course, will not permanently damage the testicles, just like any other rough handling that is done in moderation.

Have fun.

[SadisticSara]

Originally posted by Lew27
Sara,do you know how long it is safe to leave one of those thick rubber bands around the testicles?About 10 years ago in my late teens,I used to sometimes wrap one around the base of my scrotum 2 or 3 times.It hurt a lot the first 15 minutes or so,like being hit real hard in the balls,but it didn't hurt much after 30 minutes or so.I always took it off within an hour because I was afraid of doing permanent damage and I would start to break out in to a cold sweat.I know you have some medical training with elastrators.Do you think I did any permanent damage by doing this?I did it quite often for about 2 years.What do you think?

NO! No! No !!! (*screaming*)

That's VERY bad! Dangerous!

If you do that to your finger, it feels numb and changes color before causing permanent damage.
But your scrotum has no bone in there, and those tubes and cords inside that 'Trouble' mentioned are VERY delicate.

You MIGHT have caused some permanent damage.
If you can still get an erection, any possible damage wasn't 'extremely extreme'.
But that doesn't mean that there was no damage done.
You might have a lower testosterone level, or lower sperm count.
Only your doctor can tell you that.

It's a routine test that any doctor can have done. ("free testosterone level")

If you're worried, have your doctor order a blood test for you.

Honesty with your doctor is best.
But if you just CAN'T tell your doctor about the rubber bands, you could say that you'd been beaten and kicked in the balls severely a few years ago, and that you're now concerned about any damage that might have been done.

At least such a test would put an end to your doubts and worries.

- Sara

PS. How long is "too long"? If your balls change color and go completely numb, take off the rubber bands!
After the blood circulates for a while, it's up to you if you want to try it for another few minutes.

I really don't recommend rubber bands.
If you accidentally fall asleep before removing the elastic, you would regret it for the rest of your life.
Think of "gangrene" followed by "double amputation"!

[Lew27]

I always removed them before my testicles turned purple or black and the circulation returned immediately and there was no pain or soreness at all.I didn't know that permanent damage could be done if it didn't hurt that much? I can get an erection just fine if I'm really turned on,but I don't get nocturnal erections at all any more and I have trouble building much muscle,so I was wondering if low testosterone could be a problem caused by the rubber bands or by my high estrogen levels due to being over weight.

[Lew27]

Also,I had one of those saliva hormone tests done in 1999.I mailed it to the lab and they sent me back a paper that said my testosterone was in the "mid-average" range for my age group.Mine was 86 pg/ml and the range for males from 20-29 years old was 42-145 pg/ml.Do you know anything about testosterone level measurements,Sara?


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[SadisticSara]

Yes, permanent damage CAN be done even if it doesn't hurt that much.

With livestock, they just jump at first from the rubber ring being snapped in place around their ball sack (when an elastrator is used).

After that, their testicles soon go numb. No pain.
The animals continue eating, walking around, and acting normally. But the cells of the testicles "die" because of lack of blood supply. The longer it's on, the more cells that die. It's not sudden, like surgical removal of the testicles. There are different degrees of damage.
Ditto for humans.

Weight gain is also one of the symptoms of testicular damage. But weight gain can also be caused by many other things.
Another symptom is your balls being smaller than they used to be. But that can have other causes too.

I can't diagnose you online or give you medical advice, other than to repeat my recommendation that you see a real doctor.
It wouldn't cost much and there's no reason you should avoid seeing a doctor.
Doesn't have to be a specialist. A General Practitioner can order the simple blood test.

I can't (and shouldn't) try to guess about whether any permanent damage was done or not. Seeing a doctor about it would at least stop you from worrying about it, no matter what degree of damage (if any) has been done.

Read the previous posts again. Then make an appointment to see your doctor.

PS. I think that a blood test done by a medical lab at your doctor's request would be more reliable and accurate than a saliva test done by mail. But I'm not a doctor and I'm not qualified to give you any medical advice.

That link you posted to that saliva-testing company also talks about "anti-aging medicine". Ummm... I don't think I'll even get into my opinion about that!
Please see a doctor.

[Lew27]

Thanks for your advice.I was very young at the time and didn't know it was dangerous or I would never have done that.Now I am very scared that it might have affected my ability to have kids...I want to have lots of them in the future when I am ready.

[Lew27]

Sara,I was wondering if I have experienced any atrophy of my testicles from the rubber bands.How big are human testicles supposed to be?That guy's balls that you are holding in the photo look huge! What is the normal size?My testicles are about 2 inches long and 1.25 inches thick.

[SadisticSara]

Ha, haa!
If my nose were that close to the lens of the camera, it would look huge too.

Don't worry about size. The dimensions you mention are "normal".

- Sara

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Oh, now there onto "normal testicle size"!

[Tamakeri]

Oh, now there onto "normal testicle size"!

Mr ____________
Let me give you a little piece of unsolicitited advice. You can take it for what it's worth or take it to heart- I don't much care anymore. You have been on this forum for -Oh about 2 days now and have posted 57 some odd times primarily (so far) responding to 3 year old posts and making inane comments like the one above that don't add anything to the thread. I am flat out tired of opening topic after topic after topic because it has a new response, only to see some nonsense from you. While I have no reason to think that this is all we could ever hope for from you, I for one have had "all I can stands... I can't stands no more..." and so I am adding you to my ignore list. Unfortunately I will never see your witty retort to my post, which is bound to be far better that any of the posts you have made previously. I doubt seriously that I am the first to do this. I suggest that you stop posting useless comments to every damn thread no matter how old or how minor, or I suspect soon you will be talking only to those few who haven't found the ignore button yet.

-Tamakeri

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Somebody's got to keep those older threads active.
Glad to be of help.
What this forum needs are more members posting. That's been mentioned in several threads.
I like your posts, by the way.